Mechanics by Landau: Solving a Lagrangian Problem

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The discussion revolves around understanding a Lagrangian problem from Landau's theoretical physics book, specifically focusing on the expansion of the Lagrangian in different inertial frames and the implications of Taylor series in this context.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to clarify the use of derivatives in the Taylor series expansion of the Lagrangian when transitioning between inertial frames. Some participants question the reasoning behind the derivative of L with respect to v² and its application in the expansion.

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Participants are actively engaging with the mathematical details of the problem, with some providing explanations regarding the differentiation process. There is a sense of progression as one participant expresses clarity after receiving assistance, while another suggests that further study in calculus of variations may not be necessary for understanding the book's content.

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There is an emphasis on the first-order approximation in the Taylor series expansion, and the discussion includes considerations of the specific sections of the book where calculus of variations is mentioned.

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Hi!

Just reading the first book by Landau in the theoretical physics course, and I need some guidance about one point (cf. 4, Lagrangian for a free particle.) Notations: L and L' are Lagrangians referred to different inertial frames of reference. e is a element of velocity between L and L'.
It says " We have L' = L (v'^2) = L (v^2 + 2ve + e^2 ). Expanding this expression in powers of e and neglecting the terms above the first order, we obtain

L (v'^2) = L (v^2) + partial derivative of L respect to v^2 times 2ve​

So, if this is supossed to be a Taylor serie with n from zero to one, why appears the derivate of L with respect to v^2. Can someone, please, make all steps explicit?


Any help would be very appreciated!
 
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L is a function of v², and when you change to the new intertial frame v² becomes v² + 2v⋅ε to first order in ε because (v + ε)² = v² + ε² + 2v⋅ε . The change in L to first order in ε is therefore (∂L/∂v²)(2v⋅ε).
 
Thanks for the post.
I don't see why is not (∂L/∂v²)(v²+2v⋅ε)
 
If you have a function f and you want the change in f from a to a + Δ, you have to multiply f'(a) by Δ, i.e. f(a + Δ) = f(a) + f'(a)Δ.

In our case, v² becomes v² + 2v⋅ε, so you multiply by 2v⋅ε.
 
Thanks for your help, clear now! Should I study calculus of variations in order to continue with the book?
 
No it's not really necessary. The only place where it is used in this book is in section 2, where the Euler-Lagrange equations are derived, and a quite clear description of it is given there.
 

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