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A horizontal bar of mass 1kg hangs from a pair of parallel vertical rods of negligible mass, attached to either end of the bar. A third vertical rod is connected to the middle of the bar and a 4kg mass hangs from this below the rod. Work out the tension in each of the rods.
I got the tension in the third vertical rod= 40N. I don't know how to find the tension of the other two rods.
 
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did you sketch a FBD?

forces acting on the 1 kg bar …

$T_1+T_2$ up, $1g + T_3$ down
 
skeeter said:
did you sketch a FBD?

forces acting on the 1 kg bar …

$T_1+T_2$ up, $1g + T_3$ down
T1+T2=50N, T3=40N
 
Shah 72 said:
T1+T2=50N, T3=40N

so …

$T_1 =$ ?

$T_2 =$ ?

… and why?
 
skeeter said:
so …

$T_1 =$ ?

$T_2 =$ ?

… and why?
T1=T2 = 25 as T3 is at the midpoint of the horizontal bar
 
yes, but that’s not the “physics” reason … what do you know about translational and rotational equilibrium?

recommend you look them up if you haven’t heard those terms before
 
skeeter said:
yes, but that’s not the “physics” reason … what do you know about translational and rotational equilibrium?

recommend you look them up if you haven’t heard those terms before
Sure. Thanks!
 

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