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The discussion focuses on calculating the tension in three rods supporting a horizontal bar with a 4kg mass hanging from its center. The tension in the middle rod is determined to be 40N, while the combined tension in the outer rods is 50N. It is concluded that the tension in each of the outer rods (T1 and T2) is 25N, as they share the load equally due to the mass being at the midpoint. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding translational and rotational equilibrium in solving the problem. Overall, the calculations demonstrate how forces balance in a static system.
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A horizontal bar of mass 1kg hangs from a pair of parallel vertical rods of negligible mass, attached to either end of the bar. A third vertical rod is connected to the middle of the bar and a 4kg mass hangs from this below the rod. Work out the tension in each of the rods.
I got the tension in the third vertical rod= 40N. I don't know how to find the tension of the other two rods.
 
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did you sketch a FBD?

forces acting on the 1 kg bar …

$T_1+T_2$ up, $1g + T_3$ down
 
skeeter said:
did you sketch a FBD?

forces acting on the 1 kg bar …

$T_1+T_2$ up, $1g + T_3$ down
T1+T2=50N, T3=40N
 
Shah 72 said:
T1+T2=50N, T3=40N

so …

$T_1 =$ ?

$T_2 =$ ?

… and why?
 
skeeter said:
so …

$T_1 =$ ?

$T_2 =$ ?

… and why?
T1=T2 = 25 as T3 is at the midpoint of the horizontal bar
 
yes, but that’s not the “physics” reason … what do you know about translational and rotational equilibrium?

recommend you look them up if you haven’t heard those terms before
 
skeeter said:
yes, but that’s not the “physics” reason … what do you know about translational and rotational equilibrium?

recommend you look them up if you haven’t heard those terms before
Sure. Thanks!
 

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