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Mechanics/Kinetics of Particles

  1. May 28, 2006 #1
    Two weights are hanging from a rope that goes through two pulleys as shown below:

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    | O
    | / \
    | | |
    \ / |
    O |
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    A B

    A weighs 3 kg
    B weighs 2 kg

    B has an initial speed of 0.8 m/s

    How far will B drop before A reaches a speed of 0,6 m/s?

    The mass of the pulley and the cable can be neglected.

    I have been trying to resolve this for some time now but will always get the wrong answer. The way I believe it should work is:

    The potential energy + the kinetic energy for the system is the same at the start and end of this so we would have a conversion of energy from potential energy to kinetic energy. So I have set it up as having 0 potential energy to start off with (height = 0)

    mgh = 2*9.81*0 = 0 and 3*9.81*0 = 0

    The velocity for B would be twice that of the velocity for A due to the pulley system.

    The initial kinetic energy would be:
    0.5mv^2 = 0.5*2*0.8^2 and 0.5*3*-0.4^2

    So the whole amount of energy for this would be
    0.64-0.24 = 0.4

    If we then set this equal to the same formula but for the A speed of 0.6 m/s we get
    0.88 = (kinetic energy A) + (kineric energy B) + (potential energy A) + (potential energy B)

    0.4 = 0.5*3*-0.6^2 + 0.5*2*1.2^2 + 3*9.81*h/2 + 2*9.81*h

    Which makes h = - 100 / 6867

    This is incorrect as the answer should be 0.224

    Can someone see where I am going wrong and perhaps help with how this should be resolved? I have been trying to resolve this issue for some time now with different methods but will always come up with the wrong answer.

    Thankful for any suggestions!
     
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  3. May 28, 2006 #2

    Doc Al

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    Your error is in having a negative kinetic energy! The KE of mass B is positive, not negative.

    Regardless of your sign convention, the speed is squared so the KE is always positive. (To maintain sanity, I would choose a sign convention of up = +, down = -.)
     
  4. May 28, 2006 #3
    Thank you so much!!! I was really struggling with this problem but now it's solved thanks to your help :rofl:
     
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