Mechanics problem involving trig and forces.

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The discussion revolves around a mechanics problem involving a Cessna-182 airplane experiencing engine failure and gliding towards a landing. Participants are exploring how to calculate the glide angle given the mass of the airplane, its speed, and the drag force acting against it.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the airplane, including weight and drag, and question how to properly apply trigonometric relationships to find the glide angle. Some express uncertainty about the relevance of drag as a component of weight.

Discussion Status

Some participants have attempted to manipulate equations related to kinematics and forces, while others are still considering how to approach the problem. There is acknowledgment of the need for diagrams to clarify reasoning, and at least one participant has indicated they have found a method to calculate the angle, though they have not yet shared their work.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention constraints such as time limitations for providing detailed explanations and the need for diagrams to support their reasoning. There is also a reference to the known answer for the glide angle, which may influence the discussion.

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A fully loaded Cessna-182 airplane of mass 1260 kg has an engine failure when flying with an airspeed of 126 km/h at an altitude of 2870 m on a calm day. It then glides at a constant glide angle (which is the direction of flight below the horizontal) towards a safe landing at this constant speed of 126 km/h experiencing a drag force of 1280 N that opposes the direction in which the plane is moving.
Please use: g = 9.81 m s-2


[PLAIN]http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/5625

I would like to know what equations and values i should be using to find the glide angle of the plane.

I tried using the forces given, weight and drag, with trig but as I know that the drag force is not a component force of weight I didn't have high hopes. So of course i got the wrong answer.

Will upload the working once I draw the diagram I drew in paint.

I know the answer is 5.94 degrees.

Thanking you in advance. Been banging my head around this problem I just don't see what to use to work out the glide angle.
 
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If something is falling, what equations do we use?

If you have a Force (be it Drag) exerted over a distance what can you get out of it?
 
hey lok i presume we are talking about the kinematics equations. I will have a look back and report to you in a min but i don't see how i can get the angle using those equations.

actually its late in NZ so imma c this tomorrow but i think i got it, just need to manipulate the equations properly.
 
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Well you know the speed it moves forward (or at the unknown angle) and all you have to find is the speed it is falling considering it is dropping at a constant speed attracted by gravity and slowed down to a constant speed by friction.

And then there is a bit of Trig...
 
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Hey lok sorry for the late reply i did work it out last night. just been busy and haven't been able to put it up i will in an hour or 2 though thanks for the help.
 
chrisrock said:
Hey lok sorry for the late reply i did work it out last night. just been busy and haven't been able to put it up i will in an hour or 2 though thanks for the help.

Np. Anytime.
 
I used the drag force divided by the weight force, and then took the inverse sin of the answer.

Θ = sin-1 ((drag force)/(mg))


Unfortunately i can't explain y i used this as that will require me to do a diagram which i find time consuming, and as I'm short on time i can't help it SORRY !
 

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