Kinematics -- flying a plane in the wind to a destination

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The discussion revolves around a kinematics problem involving a plane's flight path in the presence of wind. The scenario describes a plane taking off from an airport and needing to adjust its angle to reach a destination while compensating for a wind blowing at a specific angle and speed.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to clarify the wind's direction and its impact on the plane's trajectory. There are suggestions to draw vector diagrams to visualize the problem and understand how to add the velocity vectors. Questions arise regarding the calculations presented, particularly the division of angles and the interpretation of results.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem through vector representation and questioning the assumptions made in the calculations. There is no explicit consensus yet, as participants are exploring different interpretations and clarifications.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of understanding the wind's direction and the implications of using trigonometric functions for angles, particularly at 45 degrees. There is an emphasis on the need to avoid incorrect assumptions about proportionality in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement


A plane is taking off from an airport directly west of the airport it wishes to touch down in. The plane in still air can travel with a constant speed of 730 km/h. If a wind is blowing constantly at 92 km/h [45° S of E], at what angle must the plane fly to compensate for the wind?

Homework Equations


Trig (sin, cos, tan) *no sin law*
V =d/t

The Attempt at a Solution


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730 km/h ÷ 92 km/h = 7.93 km/h
45/7.93= 5.67 ° [N of E]

* The answer for this question is 5.1° [N of E] and must be solved using resultant triangles, components and trig (no sin law). However, I am completely lost in solving this.
 
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Philly215 said:

Homework Statement


A plane is taking off from an airport directly west of the airport it wishes to touch down in. The plane in still air can travel with a constant speed of 730 km/h. If a wind is blowing constantly at 92 km/h [45° S of E], at what angle must the plane fly to compensate for the wind?

Homework Equations


Trig (sin, cos, tan) *no sin law*
V =d/t

The Attempt at a Solution


[/B]
730 km/h ÷ 92 km/h = 7.93 km/h
45/7.93= 5.67 ° [N of E]

* The answer for this question is 5.1° [N of E] and must be solved using resultant triangles, components and trig (no sin law). However, I am completely lost in solving this.
Welcome to the PF.

First, you should clarify what is meant by "[45° S of E]" -- does that mean the wind is coming from that direction, or blowing in that direction.

Next, draw a diagram showing the vectors of the plane's velocity (pointing left-to-right, angled either up or down), and the wind's velocity vector. When you place the vectors nose-to-tail (to add them), the resultant vector needs to point straight to the right (to the East).

Makes sense? Show us your sketch, please... :smile:
 
Philly215 said:
730 km/h ÷ 92 km/h = 7.93 km/h
You divided km/h by km/h and got a result with units of km/h? Shouldn't the units cancel?
45/7.93= 5.67 ° [N of E]
What was your thinking on the above step, dividing 45° by 7.93?

Did you draw a sketch of how the vectors should add? What direction should the resultant have?

Edit: Ah! berkeman got there ahead of me!
 
Your mistake comes from assumption that x is proportional to sin(x) for degrees and such high value as 45°, try plugging the exact value of sin(45°). sin(x)~x for small angle values, but for x in radians.
 

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