Mechanics Problem: Understanding the Tricycle Phenomenon Explained

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The discussion revolves around a mechanics problem involving a tricycle where the pedals are locked to the wheel. The original poster questions the effects of a force applied to the pedals and whether it would cause the tricycle to move backwards.

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  • Participants explore various outcomes based on the force applied, including the possibility of the tricycle sliding forward, remaining stationary, or pivoting. There is also a discussion on the nature of the force applied and its implications on the movement of the tricycle.

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The discussion is ongoing with participants expressing confusion over the original question and the terminology used. Some have suggested that the problem may be more complex than it initially appears, while others emphasize the importance of traction and friction in determining the tricycle's movement.

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There is mention of potential confusion regarding the nature of the force applied to the pedals, as well as the need for sufficient friction for the wheel to rotate without slipping. The original poster's question is noted as being unclear, which has led to varied interpretations among participants.

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Mechanics problem - Tricycle?

http://s76.photobucket.com/albums/j29/E_man777/?action=view&current=tricycle_l.jpg

On the tricycle above, the pedals are locked to the wheel.
What happens when the Force pulls in the picture above and why?

- I think that the wheel will spin the other way, making the tricycle drive backwards. Is this correct?

Thank you for the help
 
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Welcome to PF, Emant, but I have no idea what the hell you're asking. To start with, if this is homework you're in the wrong section.
Anyhow, the force applied to a cycle's pedals is semicircular, not linear. The force applied to the road by the tire is linear, but in the opposite direction to what you've indicated by the arrow. This is a confusing post.
 
The possibilities seem to be:
- The friction is low, and the whole bike will slide forward (despite the front wheel turning a bit in the backward direction).
- The force is low, and so friction will prevent anything from happening.
- Both the force and the friction are high, and so the whole bike will start to pivot over the point where the front wheel touches the ground, falling upside down.
 
Danger said:
Welcome to PF, Emant, but I have no idea what the hell you're asking. To start with, if this is homework you're in the wrong section.
Anyhow, the force applied to a cycle's pedals is semicircular, not linear. The force applied to the road by the tire is linear, but in the opposite direction to what you've indicated by the arrow. This is a confusing post.

What do YOU mean by a *semicircular* force? I've never heard of such a thing.

As for the tricycle, the solution can either be exremely difficult or extremely simple depending on the analysis. I don't think the answer is intuitive unless you actually try it with a tricycle.
 
Depends greatly on the traction of the wheel on the ground.
 
DaveC426913 said:
Depends greatly on the traction of the wheel on the ground.

Assume there is just enough friction so that the wheel can rotate without slipping. The more you think about this proble, the more difficult it will be to solve. Think simple!
 
heafnerj said:
Assume there is just enough friction so that the wheel can rotate without slipping. The more you think about this proble, the more difficult it will be to solve. Think simple!
Personally, I don;t see how it could move backwards at all. You pull on the pedal, and the tricycle will move forward.

You can't possibly pull the pedal forward and have the tricycle move backward. My point about the traction is that you won't be able to pull the tricycle forward without overcoming the static friction on the ground.
 

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