Which way would the tricycle go?

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The discussion revolves around a conceptual physics question regarding the motion of a tricycle when a specific pedal is pulled, with the steering locked. Participants are exploring the implications of friction and various physical concepts that could explain the resulting motion.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to identify four physics concepts that could explain the motion, suggesting torque and angular momentum as initial ideas. Some participants question the assumptions about the forces acting on the tricycle, particularly the role of tension and friction. Others suggest simplifying the problem by focusing on the wheel and analyzing the forces involved.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem by reconsidering the forces at play and suggesting the use of free body diagrams. Multiple interpretations of the situation are being explored, but there is no explicit consensus on the outcome.

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Participants note the importance of considering normal friction and the locked steering in their analysis, indicating that these constraints may influence the motion of the tricycle.

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Hello! my first post here

This is more of a conceptual question.

Assume normal friction in this type of situation, when pulling on the specific pedal (shown in pic) what happens to the tricycle (move backwards, forwards?) Also assume the steering is locked.

What are 4 concepts in physics that explain this?


We were having a discussion about this in class and no one agreed, so now it's homework...

I believe given friction under these circumstances it should roll back.
As for the 4 concepts in physics, my ideas so far are 1.) torque 2.) angular momentum. Any more then id be guessing.

thanks!
 

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Hi Mark. :smile:

Welcome to physicsforums! I'm relatively new here too, so I hope to see you around.

For your question, try this. For a moment, forget that you have a bicycle or whatever, simply take a look at what forces are acting on your object. I see, for one, an external tension force pulling on the front. If a force is pulling on the front, then how can the bicycle, or any object for that matter, move backwards? Don't worry about angular momentum, torque, rotation, etc. Just think of Newton's second law for translational motion.
 
As previously said it will help to forget most of the trike. Look at just the wheel and treat it as a circle. You're applying a moment to the center, you have friction.

Draw your free body diagram correctly and make sure to label your forces in the proper direction and it should be apparent.
 

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