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The discussion revolves around the Brisbane lockdown due to COVID-19, focusing on the vaccination rollout and its implications for frontline medical workers. Participants share updates on case numbers, government guidelines, and personal experiences related to the vaccination process and its execution.

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  • Some participants express frustration over the vaccination rollout, suggesting that the decision to vaccinate group 1b before fully completing group 1a may have contributed to the current outbreak.
  • There are claims that frontline workers were not adequately vaccinated before returning to work, which some argue is a significant oversight in the management of the pandemic response.
  • Concerns are raised about national guidelines not acknowledging airborne transmission of the virus, with references to statements made by medical professionals.
  • Participants discuss the practicality of vaccinating frontline workers before allowing them to perform their duties, with some suggesting that a phased approach to vaccination could have been more effective.
  • There is mention of the impact of international vaccine supply issues on the vaccination timeline in Australia, with some participants noting that the rollout may take longer than initially planned.

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Participants express a range of views on the vaccination strategy and its execution, with no consensus reached on the best approach or the effectiveness of the current guidelines. Disagreements exist regarding the prioritization of vaccination groups and the acknowledgment of airborne transmission.

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Limitations in the discussion include missing details about the specific vaccination phases and the implications of the emergency situation in Papua New Guinea on the local vaccination strategy. There is also uncertainty regarding the timeline for achieving widespread vaccination among the population.

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I originally posted in the general section that where I am in Brisbane we are now in lockdown. Further medical information has emerged on what is happening with 8 new cases overnight so I will post it here:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03...s-coronavirus-explained-pa-hospital/100037608

It seems the root cause is not following the government's carefully laid out plans to vaccinate front line medical workers first, called group 1a. They only vaccinated half and then started on my group, 1b, which are those over 70 or those at high risk such as being immunocompromised like me. Well it looks like that backfired. One reason I heard is too many front line workers were staying away from work after vaccination with reactions they wanted to stager it more. We had it very well under control here in Brisbane with no community transmission for a long time. All they had to do was stick with the original plan. I will restrain posting what I really think - simply saying this is so exasperating.

Added Later: It has now been announced that only vaccinated front line workers will be allowed to actually perform their front line duties. Oh dear - why not before beats me. As I said I do not want say what I really think.

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Bill
 
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bhobba said:
Further information from Australian physician:
At 1:07 in the video, Norman Swan, mentions that the national (Australia) guidelines do not acknowledge airborne spread! :oops: :rolleyes:
 
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Astronuc said:
At 1:07 in the video, Norman Swan, mentions that the national (Australia) guidelines do not acknowledge airborne spread! :oops: :rolleyes:

I know. It's part of some of the 'questionable' official guidelines we have in Aus. I won't go into others, but they certainly exist. All I can say is even my Doctor is not impressed by some. That said, overall we have done well, but other countries like Taiwan have done it better.

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Bill
 
bhobba said:
front line workers should be vaccinated before doing frontline tasks.

That's just not practical unless you're willing to close down your hospitals until the staff can get vaccinated.
 
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Ygggdrasil said:
That's just not practical unless you're willing to close down your hospitals until the staff can get vaccinated.

Of course. I do not know the details of phase 1a, but Dr Swan thought they got it wrong. Maybe they should have done the hospitals in phases, locking them down one by one until the workers were all vaccinated with the Pfizer Vaccine which has the second dose I believe after 3 weeks. Some hospitals are now in lockdown anyway. As always it is easy to be wise in hindsight. I still do not think they should have started 1b until 1a was completed, but we were already falling behind because Europe refused to deliver our pre-paid and ordered vaccines. At the moment phase 1a is 86% completed, so they can introduce the rule of only vaccinated workers can do frontline duties. The public was getting 'jumpy' and there was a lot of concern the rollout was falling behind. Then we had the emergency in PNG that took priority. Personally I was not concerned in the least as I knew from the 22nd of March we would be delivering 1 million doses per week from CSL in Melbourne, and Covid was well under control here. I always had my doubts about the timeline anyway because 1 million doses per week corresponds to a total of 50 weeks for our 25 million population (more actually because we had promised to supply our pacific neighbours as well), ie about a year before all are vaccinated - not October which was the plan. Of course there are other things I did not account for such as we are still getting supplies during that time of the Pfizer vaccine etc.

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Bill
 
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