Melting Ice with a Carnot Engine

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a Carnot heat engine, specifically focusing on its operation with a hot reservoir of boiling water and a cold reservoir of ice and water. The problem requires determining the work performed by the engine based on the amount of ice melted during its operation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between efficiency, work done, and the heat exchanged in the context of the Carnot engine. Questions arise regarding the necessary temperatures and heat values needed to calculate efficiency and work.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on calculating efficiency using the temperatures of the reservoirs. There is an acknowledgment of the relationship between efficiency and work, with attempts to derive the work done based on the heat lost during the melting of ice.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of explicit temperature values initially, which complicates the calculation of efficiency. The problem also involves specific values for the heat of fusion for water, which are relevant to the discussion.

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A Carnot heat engine uses a hot reservoir consisting of a large amount of boiling water and a cold reservoir consisting of a large tub of ice and water. In 5 minutes of operation of the engine, the heat rejected by the engine melts a mass of ice equal to 3.40×10^−2 kg.
Throughout this problem use L_f = 3.34x10^5 J/kg for the heat of fusion for water.

During this time, how much work W is performed by the engine?

I don't know where to start...any help please?
 
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Hi horsegirl09,

What is the efficiency of this engine? You are able to find a numerical value here.

Once you have that, how is the efficiency related to the work done?
 
I still don't see how i can get the efficiency without any temperatures or heat values
 
You do have the temperatures: one reservoir is boiling water and the other reservoir is a mixture of ice and water. What efficiency does that give?
 
Tc=273 k Th= 373 k
n = 1- (Tc/Th)
n = 1- (273/373)
n = 1-.73
n = .27 or 27%
 
n= 1-Tc/Th = W/Qh
how do i get Qh to get W?
 
You know that the exhaust melts a certain amount of water, so from that you can find the heat lost.
 
thanks i got the answer!
 

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