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I have some examples of non-homogeneous ODEs to be solved by the undetermined coefficients method. Two from "Pauls math notes" page:

[itex]y''+8y'+16y=e^{-4t}+(t^2+5)e^{-4t}[/itex]

The compsol. for this is:

[itex]Y_{c}=C_{1}e^{-4t}+C_{2}te^{-4t}[/itex]

The first guess for a particular solution would be:

[itex]Y_{p}=(At^2+Bt+C)e^{-4t}[/itex]

When multiplying the brackets with the exponent we get a solution which is in the complementary solution, thus we raise the order, indeed we have to do this twice. Pauls notes (link here) stress that only the part which is the mixed solution needs to be raised. In this example I would then raise only [itex]Bt[/itex] by [itex]t^2[/itex] and [itex]C[/itex] by [itex]t^2[/itex]. But the correct form is [itex]t^2(At^2+Bt+C)e^{-4t}[/itex]. Wolfram alpha verifies.

While on the other hand, of his other example:

[itex]y''+3y'-28y=7t+e^{-7t}-1[/itex]

Complementary solution being [itex]Y_{c}=C_{1}e^{4t}+C_{2}e^{-7t}[/itex]

The first guess at a particular solution:

[itex]Y_{p}=At+B+Ce^{-7t}[/itex]

Now here the solutions match as well, meaning a raise of the particular matching exponential function:

[itex]Y_{p}=At+B+Cte^{-7t}[/itex] which is the correct guess.

Now... why in the first example is the whole polynomial multiplied by the [itex]t^2[/itex]?

And another example:

[itex]y^{(4)}-2y^{(3)}+y''=e^t+1[/itex]

The compsol. here is:

[itex]Y_{c}=C_{1}+C_{2}+C_{3}e^{t}+C_{4}te^{t}[/itex]

Now, my first guess for a particular solution would be [itex]Ae^t+B[/itex]

This is also a solution in the homogeneous equation, so I need to raise it, twice. But according to two sources the correct way of doing this is [itex]At^{2}e^{t}+Bt^2[/itex]

Why not raise the function that is actually lapping, meaning [itex]At^{2}e^{t}+B[/itex]

So.. that is the question.

Thank you,

U.

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# Method of undetermined coefficients, when to raise the guess

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