Microsoft vs Apple: which is better?

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The discussion revolves around comparing Microsoft Windows and Apple macOS, focusing on their features, usability, and suitability for various tasks, particularly in programming and application compatibility. Participants share personal experiences and preferences, exploring the strengths and weaknesses of each operating system.

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  • One participant expresses a lack of experience with Apple and seeks insights into its features compared to Windows.
  • Another participant prefers Unix but primarily uses Windows due to application requirements, noting challenges in finding suitable applications for Apple or Unix.
  • A participant highlights the Unix-based command line in Apple and the recent introduction of a Unix-like environment in Windows.
  • Concerns are raised about the simplicity of Apple compared to Windows, with no clear consensus on which is simpler.
  • A participant shares their transition from Windows to Apple, appreciating the ease of use and installation of programming tools on macOS, contrasting it with the difficulties faced on Windows.
  • Specific complaints about Windows include issues with filename paths and the registry system, which complicate scripting and settings management.
  • Critiques of Apple include its non-standard filesystem organization, particularly regarding Java installations, suggesting a preference for more conventional Unix practices.
  • Another participant suggests trying both operating systems to determine personal preference and highlights the importance of using common tools in collaborative environments.
  • A challenge is noted regarding document editing across different operating systems and word processors, leading to compatibility issues.

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Participants express a range of opinions and experiences, with no clear consensus on which operating system is superior. Disagreements exist regarding usability, application availability, and system organization.

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Participants' claims are based on personal experiences and preferences, which may not reflect broader trends or capabilities of the operating systems discussed. Specific technical details and limitations are mentioned without resolution.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals considering a switch between Microsoft and Apple operating systems, particularly those involved in programming, collaborative work, or seeking to understand the differences in usability and application support.

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I have lived with Microsoft all my life and have had pretty much no interaction with Apple.
I want to know if Apple is any good and if it has any decent features to rival Windows features.
Could anyone help?
 
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I've always preferred Unix to either, but a number of the applications I need to run require Windows, so my computer is booted to Windows rather than Kubuntu most of the time. It's hard to find the right applications for Apple or Unix for everything I need to do, especially the right _free_ applications and applications supplied by instrument companies for the experiments I do.
 
Is Apple quite simple because I know most versions of Windows to be
 
IBM published some interesting stats of MS vs Apple:

http://www.cio.com/article/3133945/hardware/ibm-says-macs-save-up-to-543-per-user.html

Personally, I've used MS based PCs for most of my life and switched a few years ago when my coworkers at a new job were using Apple based machines. Being a programmer, I really like the Unix environment in general and was always disappointed by the approximations that were available for Windows.

Working on a Mac feels like owning a high-end sports car, things are already installed or easy to install and just work in general. On a Windows machine, I've had to constantly look for the equivalent programming tools, download, manually install and then read the caveats of features that worked on Unix but not on Windows.

One my biggest complaints were the spaces embedded in filename paths. On windows, you ran into this "feature" everywhere whereas on MacOS, while available is much less common. On Windows the "C:\Program FIles" and "C:\Documents and Settings" would constantly ruin my scripting attempts as I had to constantly program around these directories whereas on Unix I could create a link as an alternative to the name and things would work.

My other complaint was the MS Windows switch to using a registry vs config files. This made is much more difficult to find and change settings using scripts. Navigating the registry was a whole other problem, with many duplicates stored making it difficult to understand how the keys and values fit together for a given application.

Apple is not without its problems though. Apple doesn't use the defacto Unix standards to store things in the filesystem. While they do have the standard /bin, /usr/bin, /etc directory for common unix commands, libraries and config files, they don't always store add-ons in the same places. The most notable is Java which gets installed in a very funky way in the /Applications directory. Why they decided to install it the way they did is a complete mystery to me. The only reason I can think of is Apple being Apple and its need to be different and difficult.

I've also used Linux a lot and it too is an evolution from the original ATT and Berkeley Unices with many directory sttucture differences and command name changes which took some getting used to.

My suggestion is to try them all and see which ones you like. Check out what your fellow students or coworkers are using and follow the trends they set. This will provide you with a good resource for overcoming problems you run into and in the coworker setting you will fit in better using common tools tools on a common platform.

As an example of problems encountered, try editing a document using MS word, Open Office on Windows, MacOS and Linux. You are guaranteed to have a broken document in ways you just can't fix after a few iterations of edits. This often comes up as you develop a software design document across team members using different word processors and/or OSes while allowing team members to comment on and edit portions of the document.
 
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