Why are technology giants American?

  • Thread starter Thread starter mech-eng
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Technology
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the dominance of American technology giants in various sectors, including search engines, operating systems, e-commerce, and hardware. Participants examine factors contributing to this phenomenon, such as educational resources, infrastructure, and market dynamics, while also considering alternative perspectives and challenges from non-American entities.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the USA's leading universities contribute to superior knowledge and innovation, resulting in strong patent portfolios.
  • Others argue that the dominance of US tech firms is influenced by existing infrastructure, such as the internet, which was developed in the US.
  • One participant mentions that while Linux poses a challenge to Microsoft, it has not significantly impacted Windows' market share due to installation practices and user familiarity.
  • Another viewpoint highlights that the Chinese government supports local companies, which may hinder US tech firms' success in China.
  • Some participants note that the perception of Linux as difficult to use may deter users, despite its capabilities.
  • A later reply questions the classification of Linux as a technology giant, emphasizing the difference between open-source projects and large corporations.
  • Concerns are raised about the influence of vendor agreements that favor Windows over Linux in prebuilt systems.
  • Historical context is provided regarding the evolution of operating systems and the competitive landscape between Microsoft and other platforms.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the reasons behind the dominance of American technology firms, with no clear consensus on the factors at play or the implications of this dominance. Disagreements arise regarding the impact of Linux, the role of government policies in other countries, and the definition of what constitutes a technology giant.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions reference the historical development of operating systems and the competitive dynamics in the tech industry, highlighting that certain assumptions about user preferences and market behavior may not be universally applicable.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in the dynamics of the technology industry, the influence of government policies on market competition, and the evolution of operating systems may find this discussion relevant.

  • #31
Stavros Kiri said:
Sure, I'll try. But I first of all agree with
Before, 'made in Japan', now 'made in China' ...
USA 1st, but not made in the US ...
It looks like a mystery to me (although I might have some idea about it ...).


Designed by Apple in California, assembled in China. Main reason might be workers' prices. The firms are very clever and they might want to reduce workers' costs so the best way might be making countries such as China, Indonesia, Vietnam etc do their assembly process in very low prices. Another reason as far as I know is that the developed countries don't want their environment to be more polluted. So they keep patents and production permissions but they make the developing countries produce their products.

Thank you.
 
Computer science news on Phys.org
  • #32
and they run the risk of copycats or piggyback innovators later on as the product becomes more commoditized.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Stavros Kiri
  • #33
jedishrfu said:
and they run the risk of copycats or piggyback innovators later on as the product becomes more commoditized.

Does not patents stand for these cases?

Thank you.
 
  • #34
mech-eng said:
Why are technology giants American? This question is limited to the are of referred firms in the following.

Google: The giant of search engine much more preferred than its rivals and probably the strongest rivals are also American Bing and Yahoo.

.
Well, Google's creators (CEOs), as well as the CEOs of many high-tech startups are born and educated outside of the US. EDIT: Additionally, you have the obvious benefits of having an integrated market of some 330 million people with a high Per Capita GDP, i.e., high purchasing power. No borders nor different languages like in the EU.
 
Last edited:
  • #35
berkeman said:
For some insight into Apple and Microsoft and Silicon Valley, this is a very good book that I recommend:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1937785769/?tag=pfamazon01-20
View attachment 216912
Despite what many will say, Silicon Valley is the result of heavy government investment in research, not the result of plain " laissez faire" Capitalism. Not that I advocate either as the system to follow, but I think it bears clarification.
 
  • #36
jedishrfu said:
There is competitive pressure to provide machines that work with other vendor equipment. MS provides that glue as an assortment of device drivers and will even take on the help service aspect for new user problems.

Also people will tend toward a fully functioning machine over one they still have to configure. Gaming favors windows and vice versa although it wasn’t always that way as early games preferred PC Dos as it gave them greater access to graphics card control.

I can’t say why people think Linux is harder. It’s true that it’s a windowing system on top of a command line collection of arcane commands but so is windows but they now hide it better using GUI based system control.

Historically, there were mainframe OSee that used card language and then transitioned to timesharing. Unix came out of that complexity and got extended with its xwindows as others were exploring windowing technology. All these required knowing what commands to start up xwindows and configuring your machine to accept and use xwindows effectively.

MS windows came out of MS work with IBM on OS/2 where they felt IBM was addressing its corporate clients and was making the system too complex and so they stealthily built Windows and undermined OS/2 development all the while borrowing OS/2 code for windows. It was a bad alliance from the start.

Aka Network Effect?
 
  • #37
mech-eng said:
Designed by Apple in California, assembled in China. Main reason might be workers' prices. The firms are very clever and they might want to reduce workers' costs so the best way might be making countries such as China, Indonesia, Vietnam etc do their assembly process in very low prices.
So financial reasons, as far as that goes. I agree.
 
  • #38
How about Samsung? Aren't they dominating the mobile market by now?
 
  • #39
All of those giants in the OP were at at least one point in their history disruptive. European business and regulation favors preservation over disruption.

p.s @jedishrfu , I tried introducing Unix to European businesses in 1977. I was stonewalled because they had made their OS choices and had no interest in anything new an innovative.

The same thing happened with the introduction of minicomputers, workstations, PCs, packet switching, and use of the Internet for commerce and entertainment. Disruptive things were accepted more quickly in the USA.
 
Last edited:
  • #40
I like Serena said:
How about Samsung? Aren't they dominating the mobile market by now?

I don't thing so but in that field things might be reversed very quickly. There are lots of actors and they are releasing new models constantly.

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:bTySFwvD9L4J:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_information_technology_companies+&cd=6&hl=tr&ct=clnk&gl=tr

But in the area of screen LG and and Samsung might be the best ones.

http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/what-is/super-amoled/

https://webcache.googleusercontent....dia.org/wiki/AMOLED+&cd=1&hl=tr&ct=clnk&gl=tr

Thank you.
 
  • #41
mech-eng said:
I don't thing so but in that field things might be reversed very quickly. There are lots of actors and they are releasing new models constantly.

I actually thought that Samsung was Japanese who is a serious contender anyway (confirmed by your reference).
It's only now that I realize that Samsung, the number 2 in revenue, and arguably the most successful mobile manufacturer, is South Korean, which I consider to be amazing!
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
3K
Replies
10
Views
5K
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
5K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 29 ·
Replies
29
Views
10K