Minimum kinetic energy of an Alpha particle confined to a nucleus

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The discussion revolves around the minimum kinetic energy of an alpha particle confined within a nucleus, with a focus on the application of the uncertainty principle in quantum mechanics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of kinetic energy and its uncertainty, with one participant suggesting that the uncertainty in momentum can be used to estimate minimum kinetic energy. There is also a query about the interpretation of a previously submitted answer and its correctness.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes attempts to clarify the correct interpretation of kinetic energy values and the uncertainty principle. Some participants have offered guidance on the potential use of the uncertainty principle, while others express confusion regarding related problems and seek further assistance.

Contextual Notes

There are references to different expressions of the uncertainty principle and the potential for variations in interpretation. Additionally, one participant notes difficulty in finding relevant material in their textbook, indicating possible gaps in resources.

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Homework Statement



http://puu.sh/bz0km/092f2d8781.png

Homework Equations



h^2/2ma^2

The Attempt at a Solution



I've found the uncertainty of the kinetic energy through many means, and I'm confident that it's .052MeV.

The easiest method that gave me this answer was:

using http://puu.sh/bz0Fm/f45f952a89.png

((1.05*10^-34)^2 / 2(6.64*10^-27)(10^-14)^2 ) / 1.6*10^-19 = .052MeV

So I know that the kinetic energy has an uncertainty of .052MeV and that its typical energy is 5MeV, so wouldn't the answer just be 5MeV - .052MeV = 4.948MeV?
 
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In this type of question, the uncertainty in momentum is generally taken to be an estimate of the minimum momentum itself. Thus, the KE of .052 MeV would represent an estimate of the minimum KE of the alpha particle inside the nucleus. Did you try using .052 MeV as the answer?

You also have to be careful in that different people will use somewhat different expressions for the right side of the uncertainty principle: h, h-bar, h-bar/2, etc.
 
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Wow, when I first put in my answer I put in .51 instead of .519, so it got marked as wrong :( I was right the whole time.

There is this problem, though -- http://puu.sh/bz4AT/4545a75828.png

I can't even find anything like it in my textbook, any tips just to get me started on it?

Thanks.
 
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Brianrofl said:
Wow, when I first put in my answer I put in .51 instead of .519, so it got marked as wrong :( I was right the whole time.

Is that meant to be 0.0519 MeV?

There is this problem, though -- http://puu.sh/bz4AT/4545a75828.png

I can't even find anything like it in my textbook, any tips just to get me started on it?

Thanks.

Are you familiar with the energy-time uncertainty principle? See http://pdg.web.cern.ch/pdg/cpep/unc_vir.html
 
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TSny said:
Is that meant to be 0.0519 MeV?

Yeah



Are you familiar with the energy-time uncertainty principle? See http://pdg.web.cern.ch/pdg/cpep/unc_vir.html

Ok, yeah I've used that equation before and I got the correct answer, thanks!
 

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