Minimum Speed of a Rock: Solving Problem with Pit Gap of 40m

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The problem involves a 2.8-kg block sliding over a hill that is 70 m high, with a gap of 40 m at the far side that the block must clear without falling. The discussion revolves around determining the minimum speed required at the base of the hill to achieve this.

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  • Participants discuss using energy conservation principles and projectile motion equations to find the necessary speed. Some question the assumptions about the hill's shape and the visibility of the accompanying figure.

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There are various attempts to calculate the required speed, with some participants providing specific calculations and others expressing uncertainty about the problem setup. The discussion includes differing interpretations of the hill's geometry and the implications for the calculations.

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Several participants mention issues with viewing the figure that accompanies the problem, which may affect their understanding of the scenario. There is also a reference to the chapter's focus on potential and conservation energy, suggesting a framework for the discussion.

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Here is the Problem. A 2.8-kg block slides over the smooth, icy hill shown in the figure .The top of the hill is horizontal and 70 m higher than its base. i attached the Figure Below.


What minimum speed must the block have at the base of the hill so that it will pass over the pit at the far side of the hill without falling into it?

I tried using .5mv1^2+m1gH=.5mv2^2+m2gH but I need to know the gap between the pit which is 40m. I believe I use H=.5gt^2 to find the time and use projectile motion x=vosin(x)t to find the distance.
 

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I can't see the picture.

Is the hill curved?
 
The picture should be loaded now, but in the picture the hill is curved but does not seem to be stated specially. This is from a chapter on potential and conservation energy
 
Cant' see it. It says: "Attachments Pending Approval"
 
I also cannot see figure.:smile:
 
I think if the top of the hill is horizontal,then we can use

x=v_{top}t

y=\frac{1}{2}gt^2
 
The solution to this should be the initial velocity it takes to get to top of the hill plus the velocity needed to clear the pit, right? I get about 56.8 m/s which is apparently wrong.

\sqrt{1372}\;m/s+19.8\;m/s
 
Can someone please help ?
 
I have found the answer.
 
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I'm not sure if this is right, but this is what I came up with:

1) I found the speed that the object needed to be going to clear the jump.. not too hard. I assumed the ground was horizontal at the launch angle.
2) I used Energy to solve the problem.

Speed to Clear:
\Deltay = .5at2
-20m = -4.9m/s2t2
t = 2.02 seconds

no wind resistance = no acceleration

v = delta x / t = 40m / 2.02s = 19.80m/s

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Etop = Ebottom

2.8kg(g)(70m) + .5(2.8kg)(19.8m/s)2 = .5 (2.8kg)v2
v = 42.00m/s
 
  • #11
Yes, that is correct.


\sqrt{1372\;m^2/s^2+(19.8\;m/s)^2}= Life, the Universe, and Everything
 

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