Solving Physics Problem 9-72: Angular Speed of Pulley

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The problem involves a system with two masses connected by a string over a pulley, where one mass is hanging and the other is on a frictionless surface. The task is to determine the speed of the hanging mass after it falls a certain distance and the corresponding angular speed of the pulley.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of energy conservation principles, noting the need to consider both translational and rotational energies. There is a question about the correct equations for these energies and how to set up the relationships between them.

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Some participants have provided guidance on using conservation of energy to relate the different forms of energy in the system. There is an ongoing exploration of the necessary equations and how to apply them to the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of distinguishing between force and energy in their approach. There is also mention of needing to look up additional relevant equations to fully address the problem.

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1. The problem states:

Problem 9-72a:
The system shown in the figure below consists of a m1 = 4.24-kg block resting on a frictionless horizontal ledge. This block is attached to a string that passes over a pulley, and the other end of the string is attached to a hanging m2 = 2.12-kg block.
http://loncapa.mines.edu/res/whfreeman/tipler/Physics_for_Scientists_and_Engineers_6e/Chap09/graphics/tipler9-68.gif

The pulley is a uniform disk of radius 8.19 cm and mass 0.565 kg. Calculate the speed of the m2 = 2.12-kg block after it is released from rest and falls a distance of 2.23 m.

Problem 9-72b:
What is the angular speed of the pulley at this instant?


Homework Equations


v=w(R)
K=1/2mv^2

The Attempt at a Solution



I set my system to be both the masses and the pulley, therefore the only external force would be the force of gravity. I think I'm supposed to set that equal to the translational and rotational energies of the system, translational for the masses and rotational for the pulley. But i don't know what they equations for the translational and rotational energies would be. Once i figure that out i can solve for the second part of the problem. Thanks in advance![/B]
 
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You cannot equal force with energy.

The problem can be solved by considering the conversion of one type of energy into another. You quote one relevant equation for energy, and -for this problem- you need three... Look them up in your book...
 
Use conservation of energy:
K_i + U_i = K_f + U_f
Remember that there are two types of energies in this problem (translational and rotational)
 
To go a step further, conservation of energy will give an equation like:
\frac{1}{2}I\omega^{2} + \frac{1}{2}M{v_1}^2+ MgH_1 = \frac{1}{2}M{v_2}^{2} + \frac{1}{2}I\omega^{2} + MgH_2
 
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