A Missing step in the derivation of the Robertson-Walker metric

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The discussion centers on the derivation of the Robertson-Walker (RW) metric, specifically addressing the exclusion of "dtdr" terms in the metric formulation for a spatially homogeneous and isotropic cosmology. Participants highlight that the metric can be expressed as ds² = -dt² + a²(t) dσ², and argue that the choice of coordinates allows for the simplification of terms, ensuring that the timelike vector ∂t is orthogonal to spatial sections. There is a debate about the implications of this choice on stationary versus static metrics, particularly in relation to the Kerr metric. The conversation emphasizes the importance of symmetry arguments and the ability to globally cover the metric through appropriate coordinate choices. Ultimately, the participants seek a clearer understanding of how these symmetries dictate the structure of the RW metric.
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Roy_1981 said:
Thats actually not true, you can put a dtdr term, it does not violate spatial isotropy or homogeneity. dtdφ of course does, which is why I did not put in the metric I mentioned in my original post.

This is false. An irremovable r dependence violates homogeneity, an irremovable angular dependence violates isotropy. Thus they are on equal footing.

Just as an aside, homogeneity (everywhere) does not imply isotropy, but isotropy (everywhere) implies homogeneity.
 
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Just to tie up a couple of my earlier posts:

(#21) https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/missing-step-in-the-derivation-of-the-robertson-walker-metric.980564/#post-6262656 links a paper which is based on and subsumes Weinberg's theorem. This paper actually implements and makes rigoruous the approach I described (#16) https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/missing-step-in-the-derivation-of-the-robertson-walker-metric.980564/#post-6262586. It first (beginning of proof of theorem 5.1) establishes that synchronous coordinates are achievable in a neighborhood without any homogeneity or isotropy assumptions. Then, in several steps, reaches the global further simplified metric as the most general form given isotropy and homogeneity.
 

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