Missing thing while solving physics problems

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges faced by a freshman student in solving physics problems, particularly the tendency to overlook certain forces or elements in the logical reasoning process. Participants explore whether this issue improves with experience or is dependent on the number of problems solved.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about missing elements in problem-solving and questions whether this oversight improves over time or with practice.
  • Another participant suggests developing a passion for physics and emphasizes the importance of deriving formulas from first principles to avoid missing details.
  • A quote from a textbook is shared, highlighting that practice is essential for learning from mistakes and gaining familiarity with problem types.
  • Some participants advocate for conceptual analysis before mathematical calculations, suggesting that understanding the system can simplify the math involved.
  • One participant notes that they often forget to include friction or other logical values, indicating a need for a step-by-step approach to problem-solving.
  • Encouragement is offered, stating that problems that are difficult initially become easier with repeated attempts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of practice and conceptual understanding in solving physics problems. However, there is no consensus on whether improvement is solely dependent on practice or if it varies with the nature of the problems tackled.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention specific strategies for problem-solving, such as visualizing problems and analyzing them conceptually, but there is no agreement on a singular method or approach that guarantees success.

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I am trying to solve some physics problems but sometimes I miss some stuff.Like in the logical part sometimes I forget to include some force or things like that.I am a freshman student.
Is it improve over time (to see the missing part that I couldn't see ) or ıt depends the question number that I solve ?

It may sound stupid question but its important for me

Thank you
 
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Hello Arman777,
It is normal to forget but in physics, try to develop passion for the subject. Also, once you start handling a problem, if you can derive formulas from first principles. If not, just keep your focus there so that you do not forget
Regards
 
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Arman777 said:
I am trying to solve some physics problems but sometimes I miss some stuff.Like in the logical part sometimes I forget to include some force or things like that.I am a freshman student.
Is it improve over time (to see the missing part that I couldn't see ) or ıt depends the question number that I solve ?

It may sound stupid question but its important for me

Thank you

From "Mathematical Methods in the Physical Sciences" 2nd Ed. by Mary Boas:

The only way to learn to solve problems is to solve problems.

It means that you have to practice, practice, and practice till (i) you learn from your mistakes and (ii) you get a feel for that type of problems.

There are no short cuts.

Zz.
 
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ZapperZ said:
From "Mathematical Methods in the Physical Sciences" 2nd Ed. by Mary Boas:
It means that you have to practice, practice, and practice till (i) you learn from your mistakes and (ii) you get a feel for that type of problems.

There are no short cuts.

Zz.
Thanks , I see now...Then let's work
 
I like solving problems and studying physics.Just sometimes, as I said, I forget to add stuff and its annoying for me.
 
ZapperZ said:
It means that you have to practice, practice, and practice till (i) you learn from your mistakes and (ii) you get a feel for that type of problems.

There are no short cuts.

Zz.

Sometimes clicking the like button is not enough to emphasize an idea of essential importance. Gotta quote it and bold it.
 
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Dr. Courtney said:
Sometimes clicking the like button is not enough to emphasize an idea of essential importance. Gotta quote it and bold it.

I understand the idea.Thanks
 
First thing to do with a new problem is always to analyse it conceptually . Sums come later .

If you really understand how a system works then the maths needed to get an actual solution is generally much easier to formulate .

Try to develop a capability to visualise problems either in your mind or by doing sketches .
 
Nidum said:
First thing to do with a new problem is always to analyse it conceptually . Sums come later .

If you really understand how a system works then the maths needed to get an actual solution is generally much easier to formulate .

Try to develop a capability to visualise problems either in your mind or by doing sketches .

Yeah..In that first part.Sometimes I forget friction or some logical values ext..I have to do solve and analyse step by step I guess.Which that's the way how should it be done.In that case mostly I can solve the problems
 
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Take heart anyway - a problem which is difficult to solve the first time becomes easy to solve the second time and positively boring the third time .
 
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Nidum said:
Take heart anyway - a problem which is difficult to solve the first time becomes easy to solve the second time and positively boring the third time .
:smile::smile:

It was nice
 

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