Mixing Alkanes & Water: Polarity vs Density?

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The discussion centers around the question of why alkanes and water do not mix, exploring the roles of polarity and density in this context. Participants reflect on the implications of the terminology used in a chemistry exam question, considering both the definitions of "mix" and the nature of the substances involved.

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  • One participant suggests that polarity prevents alkanes from being soluble in water, while also considering density as a factor in a heterogeneous mixture.
  • Another participant questions the meaning of "mix," proposing that it may not imply a homogeneous mixture and that the exam question could be poorly worded.
  • Some participants argue that the term "mix" could refer to an attempt to combine substances without achieving a homogeneous mixture, leading to confusion in answering the exam question.
  • There is a mention that a difference in density does not prevent mixing, whether in terms of a solution or a suspension.

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Participants express differing interpretations of the term "mix" and its implications for the exam question. There is no consensus on whether the professor's wording was appropriate or whether density plays a significant role in the mixing of alkanes and water.

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Participants highlight the ambiguity in the terminology used in the exam question, which may lead to different interpretations regarding the nature of mixing and the properties of the substances involved.

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Water / alkanes "mix"

Ok, so I had a chemistry exam today an missed one of the questions:

Q: What prevents you from being able to mix an alkane with water?

My original thought was that they cannot mix because water is polar, and alkanes are non polar...but then I started to think about the word "mix" that the professor used on the exam.

Polarity would certainly prevent the alkane from being soluble in water, but in the case of a heterogeneous mixture, density would play a part in the "mixing". For example, if you had a heterogeneous mixture of plastic and lead beads in a bucket which are evenly spaced, and you agitate the mixture, the beads will separate themselves out of the mixture and form two different layers.

So basically, because the professor used the word "mix" instead of "dissolve", it caused me to write down difference in density instead of polarity.

The professor's answer was polarity.

Do you think I will be able to argue this one to get a point back on my exam score?

Thanks
 
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My English fails me here. Does mix means 'preparing a homogenous mixture'?

In Polish you can 'mix' things, but they don't have to be 'mixed' afterwards (ie they can still separate). So nothing stops your from mixing, but properties stops you from preparing a homogenous mixture. If that's the case in English also, question is poorly worded.
 


Borek said:
My English fails me here. Does mix means 'preparing a homogenous mixture'?

In Polish you can 'mix' things, but they don't have to be 'mixed' afterwards (ie they can still separate). So nothing stops your from mixing, but properties stops you from preparing a homogenous mixture. If that's the case in English also, question is poorly worded.

Exactly. That was the problem I was having while taking the exam. The professor used the word "mix", which doesn't mean she was referring to a homogeneous mixture, just that the substances were attempted to be mixed, which lead me to answer with difference in density instead of polarity.
 


If the question is poorly worded, you should try to discuss it with her.
 


RJVoss said:
Exactly. That was the problem I was having while taking the exam. The professor used the word "mix", which doesn't mean she was referring to a homogeneous mixture, just that the substances were attempted to be mixed, which lead me to answer with difference in density instead of polarity.
Anyway, a density difference does not prevent a "mixing", either if is intended as solution or as suspension.
 

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