Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around molecular orbital (MO) theory as it pertains to the bond order and nonbonding electrons in the hydroxyl ion (OH) and its ionized form (OH+). Participants explore the roles of different atomic orbitals in bonding and the energy considerations involved in removing electrons from these orbitals.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Technical explanation
- Debate/contested
- Mathematical reasoning
Main Points Raised
- Some participants question why the 2px and 2py electrons do not affect the bond order, suggesting these orbitals are non-bonding and do not participate in bonding.
- There is a suggestion that the removal of a nonbonding electron from OH to form OH+ is due to energy considerations, where electrons from higher energy orbitals are removed first.
- One participant proposes that the 2s orbital, being a nonbonding orbital, has the lowest energy and thus is the easiest to remove an electron from.
- Another participant raises the question of whether all valence electrons are used in bonding when creating molecular orbitals, specifically in the context of NO+.
- It is noted that the number of molecular orbitals must match the number of atomic orbitals, and that some molecular orbitals can be non-bonding, as seen in carbonyl groups.
- Participants discuss the analogy of energy required to remove electrons from different energy levels, comparing it to lifting objects to different heights.
- There is a question about the relative energies of the nonbonding px and py orbitals compared to the bonding sigma orbital formed from the pz and H 1s orbitals.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express uncertainty regarding the specific roles of different orbitals in bonding and the energy dynamics involved in electron removal. Multiple competing views remain on the nature of bonding and nonbonding orbitals, as well as the implications for bond order and electron removal.
Contextual Notes
There are unresolved questions regarding the definitions of bonding and nonbonding orbitals, as well as the specific energy levels of the orbitals involved. The discussion also touches on the technical aspects of molecular orbital theory without reaching a consensus on certain points.