Modeling Suction Force: Tips & Solutions

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The discussion focuses on modeling suction force in physics, specifically the equation for net force, which combines weight and suction force. Participants seek clarification on the components that constitute suction force, the consistency of the suction cup used in different scenarios, and the directionality of acceleration in relation to suction force. Key questions include the differentiation of suction force components and the implications of varying suction cup types on the overall force model.

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  • Understanding of Newton's laws of motion
  • Familiarity with basic physics concepts such as force and acceleration
  • Knowledge of suction mechanisms and their applications
  • Ability to interpret and manipulate equations in physics
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Students studying physics, engineers working with suction mechanisms, and anyone interested in the principles of force modeling and its applications in real-world scenarios.

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Homework Statement
I have 2 scenarios.
Scenario 1: I am lifting an object with a suction cup using a robot arm which then accelerates. I know the values for suction force, object weight, acceleration, and suction area of the suction cup.

Scenario 2: I am lifting another object with a suction cup but the object has a different weight. I only know the object weight and acceleration in this scenario. However I need to find the suction area while making sure it is proportional to the object weight and suction area from the first scenario. How can I solve for this?
Relevant Equations
F=ma or W (suction force) = A (suction area) * P (vacuum value)
At a total loss here
 
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##\text{net force }ma=\text{weight}+\text{suction force}##, I guess?
 
If you read it over a bunch of times you can probably get an idea of what they're asking you to do.

A couple of questions might help (or not) :
- what two components make up "suction force" ?
- is it the same suction cup in both scenarios ? If not, what would be the relevant difference.
- is the direction component of added acceleration the same in both cases ? If so, what is the direction component.

What are they actually asking you to do ?
 

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