# What is Suction: Definition and 61 Discussions

Suction is the colloquial term to describe the air pressure differential between areas.
Removing air from a space results in a pressure differential. Suction pressure is therefore limited by external air pressure. Even a perfect vacuum cannot suck with more pressure than is available in the surrounding environment. Suctions can form on the sea, for example, when a ship founders.
When the pressure in one part of a system is reduced relative to another, the fluid in the higher pressure region will exert a force relative to the region of lowered pressure. Pressure reduction may be static, as in a piston and cylinder arrangement, or dynamic, as in the case of a vacuum cleaner when air flow results in a reduced pressure region.
When animals breathe, the diaphragm and muscles around the rib cage cause a change of volume in the lungs. The increased volume of the chest cavity decreases the pressure inside, creating an imbalance with the ambient air pressure, resulting in suction.

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1. ### Calculate Load carrying capacity of vertically mounted suction cup

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2. ### Is a Venturi Suction the Solution for Low Pressure in a Centrifugal Pump System?

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3. ### Modeling Suction Force: Tips & Solutions

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4. ### Venturi injector suction not adequate

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5. ### Calculating the Suction Generated by a Shop-Vac

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6. ### Direct steam injection into cooling water line at pump suction

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7. ### I Need advice on vacuum / suction experiment

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8. ### How does high humidity affect suction pressure & discharge pressure?

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9. ### Relationship Between Suction Force & Suction Distance

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10. ### HVAC Understanding the movement of a fluid in a vertical pipe

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11. ### Misc. Generating as much suction with as little weight as possible

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12. ### Why Doesn't My Air Purifier Have a Suction Feeling at the Intake?

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13. ### Maximum suction force in a suction cup

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14. ### Determine the pressure gradient for suction

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15. ### I Suction Cavitation in Pumps: Causes and Frequency

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16. ### Pump has a suction lift of more than 10.3 m

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17. ### Suction side and discharge side pump pressure

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18. ### Calculating suction area around the intake of a jet engine

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19. ### How Does Specific Gravity Impact NPSH in Centrifugal Pumps?

Head psa(suction surface pressure) = 2.31xP/specific gravity This is one of the factors to calc NPSH. Shows how much head is pushing liquid through the pump. What does the specific gravity have to do with surface pressure of a liquid before it goes into the pump? Isn't it just involving the...
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### B Suction Through Small & Large Pipes

Hi, I am wondering if suction power from a vacuum for example that has a set amount of power, is increased or decreased depending on the size of pipe. Does a large pipe decease/ increase the suction power, or does a small pipe decease/ increase the suction power? Is there a link to the size in...
21. ### Vacuum created or suction created when we use peristaltic pump

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### Can a gravity fed pump effectively draw fluid from a tank at a higher elevation?

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23. ### I Simple suction air filter: items and preventing implosion

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24. ### Calculating CO2 expansion time and generated suction

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25. ### Multi-Suction Point Pipe Flow

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26. ### I How Can Boundary Layer Suction Reduce Flow Separation in Pipe Expansion?

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27. ### I Aspiration Power: Needle Tip Effect

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28. ### Medicine & Physics -- Question about chest tube suction techniques

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29. ### Radial Suction Fan Design & Equations

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30. ### Increasing water pressure without increasing pump output

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31. ### Force diagram of a suction cup

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32. ### Non-steady suction induced by Venturi Injector

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33. ### Suction Pressure at different orifices

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34. ### Pump Head & Suction (leaky closed system) PF Newbie

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35. ### Pump NPSHA (net positive suction head) question

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36. ### Suction velocity of different vacuum heads

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37. ### Suction force and pressure difference

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38. ### Electroplating Fume Suction System Design

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39. ### Suction caused by an air jet acting on a plate, why?

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40. ### Am I understanding the concept of suction correctly?

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41. ### Max Mass Supported by 5.6-Diameter Suction Cup

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42. ### How can I calculate the pressure drop for a vacuum system?

Hey guys, I am currently trying to figure out how to build a really small vacuum system and trying to maximize the suction force. I understand that in order to create the vacuum suction force we must have a pressure drop within the chamber so the molecules rush into the low pressure region...
43. ### Branched suction pipe foR a pump

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44. ### How much suction required to lift?

Hi - am looking for some data points on how much suction is required to lift an object at different weights and volumes. Especially interested in any data relative to displacing an object caught in the throat if you are choking. Appreciate any help!
45. ### Relationship between soil suction and angle of repose

I am writing a report for my civil engineering subject. and i have few questions. is there any relationship between angle of repose and total soil suction. is there any relationship between angle of repose and particle size distribution. is there any relationship between angle of repose and...
46. ### Relation between impeller diameter and suction pipe length?

Hi all, I want to know if impeller diameter of a Blower can influence its suction pipe length. If so, then how are they related?
47. ### Effect of suction flow rate over flow separation

Dear all, Take my best wishes. I am facing a problem designing my experimental setup for my research. I want to produce flow separation over a flat plate. Here is my experimental setup: Diffuser angle is 16deg. I need some documentation/text book regarding the effect of suction flow rate...
48. ### Calculate Suction Pressure from Walls & Cups

Hi, I had a question regarding pressure and suction. Say you have 2 walls with a suction cup that is attached to each. Initial volume of the cup is 1m^3, area attached is 1m^2 Initial pressure is 1 atm Both walls have a hole of different sizes with a pipe leading out to atmosphere. 1 pipe...
49. ### Solving Tony's 400 Suction Cup Project

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50. ### Placing air suction next to the air flow ventilation of a PC. Good or bad idea?

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