Module Problem: Existence and Sub-Module of N

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The discussion centers on the existence of an S-module N such that N ⊗_S R is isomorphic to an R-module M, with N being a sub-S-module of M. The consensus is that such a module does not exist, particularly when considering R-modules that are S-free. A counterexample is provided through the concept of group algebras, specifically the induction functor, which demonstrates that the functor is not essentially surjective. The discussion also touches on the equivalence of categories related to the restriction from R to S.

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Let R be a commutative ring, with subring S.

Let M be an R-module.

Does there exist a S-module N such that [itex]N \otimes_S R \cong M[/itex] as R-modules? Preferably with N a sub-S-module of M?

Even better, can we choose such modules N so that if we have an R-module homomorphism
f:M --> M'​
it yields an S-module homomorphism
g:N --> N'​
so that

Code:
        N (x) R ---> M
        |            |
g (x) R |            | f
        V            V
        N' (x) R --> M'
(with the horizontal arrows the aforementioned isomorphisms)
 
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No. Is the simple answer. Such a module, M, I would be tempted to call S-free.

For a well understood (by me) counter example, I like to think of group algebras. The functor [itex]?\otimes_{kH}kG[/itex] is the induction functor, and it is certainly not essentially surjective - though it is true, that every module is a summand of a kH-free object for some H (called the vertex subgroup, and this is a lovely theory of Green's from the 50s.

In general, you're probably asking for an equivalence of categories here, given by restriction from R to S.
 
I didn't think it'd be that easy, but I couldn't see how to go about constructing a counterexample.


I'm hoping to find circumstances for which, if I had two maps R --> T with S their equalizer, that S-mod --> R-mod would resemble an equalizer of the induced functors R --> T. And if not in Cat, then in what sort of 2-category it does.
 

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