Moment of Inertia and Collisions

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The problem involves a uniform symmetric ellipsoid and a particle undergoing an inelastic collision, leading to the analysis of the system's linear velocity, angular momentum, and precession. The subject area includes dynamics and rotational motion, particularly focusing on moment of inertia and conservation laws.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need for the initial velocity of the particle to solve for linear velocity and angular momentum. There is uncertainty about the relationship between linear and angular velocity, particularly whether they can be determined independently. Questions arise regarding the definition and implications of precession in this context.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various aspects of the problem. Some have provided insights into the conservation of momentum and angular momentum, while others express confusion about certain terms and the necessity of specific information. Clarifications regarding the initial conditions are being sought.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted omission of the initial velocity in the problem statement, which has led to confusion among participants. The assumptions about the moment of inertia and the setup of the collision are also under scrutiny.

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Homework Statement



A uniform symmetric ellipsoid (Mass M) has a large semi axis c and small semi axis a. A particle of mass m<<M is moving along a straight line parallel to the x-axis. Its y-coordinate is a/2 and its z-coordinate it c/2. After an inelastic collision, it sticks to the ellipsoid and then it (The ellipsoid) starts to move and rotate. One can assume the moment of inertia of the composite system equals to that of the ellipsoid.

Find its linear velocity after collision
Find the angular momentum of the system
Find the precession of the ellipsoid c-axis around direction of the angular momentum

Homework Equations



Moment of Inertia about z-axis is I=(2/5)*M*a^2
Moment of Inertia about other axes is I=(1/5)*M*(a^2+c^2)
KE=0.5*I*w^2 where w is angular velocity
L= I*w

The Attempt at a Solution



I suspect that you need the linear velocity to determine both the angular momentum and the precession. But my linear velocity cancels out when I equate KE=0.5*(m+M)*v^2=0.5*(0.4Ma^2)*(v/a)^2 [v/a=w]

Any help would be nice! Thanks a lot

Regards,
The Keck
 
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By conservation of linear momentum, mv(i)+M(0)=(m+M)v'. Here v' is velocity vector of the center of mass of the system.

By conservation of angular momentum, m(v i)x(a/2 j+ c/2 k)=Iw, where I=I cm about the x axis. From this you can find the angular velocity of the system. [tex]w=\frac{mv}{I_{cm}}(\frac{a}{2}k-\frac{c}{2}j)[/tex].

I don't know what you mean by precision but if you explain it, I may be able to help you.
 
So that would mean you actually need the initial velocity of the particle m, cause the question seems to indicate you don't need it. (I a bit confused about what you are doing...are you finding w and v independently and then use the fact that v=a*w or something?)

I'll check up on that the precession means, cause personally I'm not sure on it myself.

Thanks a lot

Regards,
The Keck
 
Okay...I checked up on my lecturer who wrote this question, and he said that he had forgotten to put in an initial velocity v(i). But I'm still not sure on what you are doing with the angular velocity. Are you saying that the angular momentum is mv(i) x (a/2j + c/2k)?

Regards,
The Keck
 
Okay...I checked up on my lecturer who wrote this question, and he said that he had forgotten to put in an initial velocity v(i). But I'm still not sure on what you are doing with the angular velocity. Are you saying that the angular momentum is mv(i) x (a/2j + c/2k)?

Regards,
The Keck
 

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