Moment of Inertia of a butterfly-shaped yoyo

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the moment of inertia for a butterfly-shaped yoyo, with specific dimensions and mass provided. The problem involves understanding the geometry of the yoyo and applying the appropriate physics principles to find the moment of inertia, considering the varying radii of the yoyo's structure.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the moment of inertia formula for a solid cylinder and the necessity of integrating across varying disk sizes due to the yoyo's geometry. There are questions about how to perform the integration and what additional data might be needed for a complete analysis.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the need for careful drawings to determine the appropriate integration limits and have suggested that integration is the best approach for this problem. There is an acknowledgment of the original poster's frustration with the integration concept, and a request for further clarification on the necessary data and integration process.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the assumption of spherical curvature for the yoyo halves may simplify the analysis. There is a mention of sufficient data being available, but also a recognition of the need for clarity on how to apply it effectively.

waughcraft
Messages
2
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


As interpreted from butterflyyoyo1cm.png, assuming that they are the same yoyos, each "half-yoyos" has 1cm of length, also, the center gap consists of 0.2cm, making the yoyo widths 2.2cm across in diameter exteriorly(1.1cm in radius).

For the "interior" length, as shown in butterflyyoyo1.1cm.PNG, the yoyo has 1.1cm in radius interiorly.

As shown in image BEST3124BU.jpg, the yoyo has a radius of 2.5cm in length.

Ignoring the mass of the string, half of the yoyo weighs 30.75g(0.03075kg), which adds up to 61.5grams(0.0615kg) for the object as a whole.

Question: Assuming the yoyo has the same mass density in every part of the yoyo(except the center gap), what is the value of the moment of inertia of the yoyo?

Homework Equations


Moment of Inertia: I = m(r^2)

The Attempt at a Solution


Used the formula I = 0.5M(R^2) from a physics textbook, stating that solid cylinder about cylindrical axis, but it does not work for this case.
 

Attachments

  • BEST3124BU.jpg
    BEST3124BU.jpg
    10.8 KB · Views: 466
  • butterflyyoyo1cm.PNG
    butterflyyoyo1cm.PNG
    20 KB · Views: 556
  • butterflyyoyo1.1cm.PNG
    butterflyyoyo1.1cm.PNG
    18 KB · Views: 508
Physics news on Phys.org
waughcraft said:
Used the formula I = 0.5M(R^2) from a physics textbook, stating that solid cylinder about cylindrical axis, but it does not work for this case.

Welcome to PF.

Well it does ... but. In this case you have to then integrate across the varying size disks that are determined by the displacement along the axis of rotation. Symmetry will let you at least double it once you've found 1 side.

Looks like you have to do a careful drawing to determine the appropriate radii of all the incremental disks.

Too bad it's not simply a solid sphere cut in half and the halves swapped back to back. That you could get out of your book.
 
LowlyPion said:
Welcome to PF.
Well it does ... but. In this case you have to then integrate across the varying size disks that are determined by the displacement along the axis of rotation. Symmetry will let you at least double it once you've found 1 side.
Thanks for the reply first of all.
However, sorry that I feel kinda frustrated about it since I don't know how to "integreate across the varying size disks" due to my insufficient knowledge in mechanics for that I'm at the last year of high school.

May you, or someone, kindly explain how to integrate the various disk sizes in this case?

Also, I would like to kindly ask, for the insufficient data that you've just commented, what sets of data do I need to collect to make the data sets "sufficient"?

Thank you!
 
First of all you have sufficient data, if you make the assumption that the radius of curvature of the halves are spherical. So what you have then are missing parts, or parts of a whole which ever way you want to look at it.

Integration is really your best option and the most exact.

Like I said before you want to make a careful drawing. And then determine which parts you can integrate across. (i.e. from which radius to which radius these disks will be summed from)

The center post is a cylinder so that's easy. You have that portion, though its contribution will be slight.

As to the spherical sections here is the example of developing the moment of inertia for a sphere.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/isph.html#sph4

Your limits are not R to -R however. That you will need to determine from your careful drawing.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
6K
  • · Replies 27 ·
Replies
27
Views
5K
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
12K
Replies
1
Views
6K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
4K
Replies
4
Views
11K