Moment of Inertia of a Pendulum

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The problem involves determining the moment of inertia of a pendulum, specifically a wrench swinging from a hook. The pendulum's characteristics include its length, period of swing, and the spring constant affecting its motion.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the formula for moment of inertia and question its correctness, particularly regarding the factors involved in the equation. There are attempts to derive the correct formula and clarify the relationship between the variables.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the correct formula for moment of inertia, with some participants suggesting corrections and others affirming those suggestions. The discussion includes inquiries about the derivation of the formula used.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific values and relationships, such as the spring constant and the period of the pendulum, while also noting the need for clarity on the derivation of the moment of inertia formula.

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Homework Statement



The 20 cm-long wrench in the figure swings on its hook with a period of 0.92s. When the wrench hangs from a spring of spring constant 350 N/m, it stretches the spring 3.5 cm.

What is the wrench's moment of inertia about the hook?

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Homework Equations



I = m*g*L*T^2/2pi

The Attempt at a Solution



Fsp = Fg
kx = mg
m = kx/g
m = (350)(0.035)/9.8 = 1.25

I = (1.25)(9.8)(0.14)(0.92)^2/2pi = 0.23 kg*m^2

This isn't the correct answer however. Can someone explain what I did wrong?
 
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Hi MyNewPony,

MyNewPony said:

Homework Statement



The 20 cm-long wrench in the figure swings on its hook with a period of 0.92s. When the wrench hangs from a spring of spring constant 350 N/m, it stretches the spring 3.5 cm.

What is the wrench's moment of inertia about the hook?

http://session.masteringphysics.com/problemAsset/1070606/9/14.EX25.jpg

Homework Equations



I = m*g*L*T^2/2pi

This formula does not look quite right to me. Do you see what it needs to be?
 
alphysicist said:
Hi MyNewPony,



This formula does not look quite right to me. Do you see what it needs to be?

Ah. I forgot to square the 2pi.

So the equation becomes:

I = mgLT^2/4pi^2

Is that correct?
 
MyNewPony said:
I = m*g*L*T^2/2pi
This equation isn't quite right. It's off by a factor of 2pi.
 
MyNewPony said:
Ah. I forgot to square the 2pi.

So the equation becomes:

I = mgLT^2/4pi^2

Is that correct?

That looks right to me.
 
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MyNewPony said:
Ah. I forgot to square the 2pi.

So the equation becomes:

I = mgLT^2/4pi^2

Is that correct?
Yes.
 
alphysicist said:
That looks right to me.

Doc Al said:
Yes.

Thanks a bunch!
 
Glad to help!
 
Sorry for bumping up an old thread, but thought it'd be better than making a new one about the same problem. Can someone tell me where equation for I is derived from? From my knowledge I know that I = cMR^2 (as an estimated value), but what exactly do you plug into get to that point? (I = mgLT^2/4pi^2 )
 
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Hi ElTaco,

ElTaco said:
Sorry for bumping up an old thread, but thought it'd be better than making a new one about the same problem. Can someone tell me where equation for I is derived from? From my knowledge I know that I = cMR^2 (as an estimated value), but what exactly do you plug into get to that point? (I = mgLT^2/4pi^2 )

It's a standard form for the period of a physical pendulum. The derivation should be in your book, and you might also look at:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/pendp.html
 
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