Moment of Inertia of a Rotating Cam

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The discussion revolves around calculating the kinetic energy of a circular disk cam that rotates about an off-center shaft. The cam has a radius R and an off-center hole with a radius of R/2, and participants are exploring the implications of these dimensions on the moment of inertia and kinetic energy calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the moment of inertia using the parallel axis theorem but arrives at a different answer than expected. Some participants suggest reconsidering the mass of the cam and the implications of the hole in the disk. Others introduce the concept of treating the hole as a negative mass to aid in the calculation.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and alternative perspectives on the problem. There is a mix of confirmations and clarifications regarding the assumptions made about the disk's inertia and the effects of the off-center axis. No explicit consensus has been reached, but guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the problem.

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Participants are questioning the assumptions about the mass distribution and the material of the cam and shaft, as well as the physical significance of the calculations being performed. There is a request for a full solution, indicating a desire for further clarification on the topic.

Dorothy Weglend
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This cam is a circular disk rotating on a shaft that does not pass through the center of the disk. It is manufactured by first making the cam with radius R, then drilling an off-center hole, radius R/2, parallel to the axis of the cylinder and centered at a point R/2 from the center of the cam.

The cam, of mass M is then slipped onto the circular shaft and welded into place. What is the kinetic energy of the cam when it is rotating with angular speed w about the axis of the shaft?

This is giving me real problems, so I would appreciate any suggestions.

I used Icm = MR^2/2 for the moment of inertia of a solid, rotating cylinder around its center of mass, and the parallel axis theorem to get:

I = MR^2/2 + MD^2 = MR^2/2 + M(R/2)^2 = 3MR^2/4

From which the rotational kinetic energy should just be:

Kw = (3MR^2/4)w^2(1/2) = (3MR^2/8)w^2

But the answer in the book is (23/48)MR^2w^2

So, wow, am I off.

The only thing I can think of is that the shaft might be made of a different material, so I would have to change the mass calculation somehow, but the problem doesn't say anything about that. Anyway, wouldn't they make these things out of the same stuff?

Thanks for any help,
Dorothy
 
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I think they want the KE of the cam, not the cam plus shaft.

A hint and a trick. Hint: M is the mass of the cam, not of a solid disk of radius R. Trick: A disk with a hole can be thought of as a solid disk of radius R plus another solid disk of radius R/2 but with negative mass. :wink:
 
Well, that was easy. Thank you! Cool trick, that negative mass idea.

Does this actually have any kind of physical significance? Wouldn't the effective KE of the cam be different, because really, it seems to me, the shaft and the cam form a single object. Is there any point to this calculation besides the routine torture of physics students? :rolleyes:

Thanks again, Doc Al. I hope you had a great thanksgiving.

Dorothy
 
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Can you show me the full solution of this question?

Thanks :-)
 
So just to follow up on what Doc Al posted. When he is talking about the disk of radius R being subtracted with the missing disk we are assuming that the original disk does not follow the inertia of a regular disk right? Since the axis it is being turned on is not at the center of the large disk we use MR^2 instead of 1/2MR^2 right? Just double checking.

Thanks Matt
 
matt0101 said:
When he is talking about the disk of radius R being subtracted with the missing disk we are assuming that the original disk does not follow the inertia of a regular disk right?
A disk with a hole in it has a different rotational inertia than a complete disk, if that's what you are asking.
Since the axis it is being turned on is not at the center of the large disk we use MR^2 instead of 1/2MR^2 right? Just double checking.
To find the rotational inertia of a disk about a point not at its center, we use the parallel axis theorem.
 

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