Moment of Inertia of equilateral triangle about vertex

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the moment of inertia of a thin uniform wire bent into the shape of an equilateral triangle. The axis of rotation is specified to be perpendicular to the plane of the triangle and passing through one of its vertices.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the moment of inertia formulas for slender rods and the parallel axis theorem, but questions arise regarding the correct mass to use for each segment of the triangle. Some participants inquire about the calculation of distances involved in the setup.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaged in clarifying the mass distribution across the triangle's sides and verifying the calculations related to the distances used in the moment of inertia formula. There is an acknowledgment of a potential oversight in the mass value used, which has led to a correction in the original poster's approach.

Contextual Notes

There is a discussion about the mass being attributed to the entire wire versus individual sides, which affects the calculations. Additionally, the method of determining the distance 'd' for the third side of the triangle is being explored.

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Homework Statement


A piece of thin uniform wire of mass m and length 3b is bent into an equilateral triangle. Find the moment of inertia of the wire triangle about an axis perpendicular to the plane of the triangle and passing through one of its vertices.

Homework Equations


Slender rod, axis through one end: I=\frac 1 3ML2
Parallel axis theorem: Ip=Icm+Md2
Slender rod, axis through center: I=\frac {1} {12}ML2

The Attempt at a Solution


First I drew the figure as an equilateral triangle with the axis at the top point and set each side equal to B.[/B]

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Then I considered the 2 sides to be slender rods with the axis through one end.
So, ΣI=\frac 1 3Mb2+\frac 1 3Mb2

The third side I figured would be a slender rod with the axis in the middle but moved up a distance d which would equal \sqrt{ b^2- {\frac 1 4} b^2 }.

Ip=\frac {1} {12}Mb2+M\sqrt{ b^2- {\frac 1 4} b^2 }2

Then I added them all up to get the moment of inertia for the whole triangle.

ΣI=\frac 1 3Mb2+\frac 1 3Mb2+\frac {1} {12}Mb2+Mb2-\frac 1 4Mb2

But I get \frac 3 2Mb2 when the answer is supposed to be \frac 1 2Mb2.

Am I maybe missing a negative or calculating one of the moments wrong?
 
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Hello there, haithere, :welcome:
Is M the mass of one side, or of the whole thing ?
 
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BvU said:
Hello there, haithere, :welcome:
Is M the mass of one side, or of the whole thing ?
M is the mass of the whole wire so should I be using M/3 for the value of M in each moment I'm adding?
edit: I tried it and it works thanks for pointing that out
 
can you show how you found the distance d?
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Hello Muz, :welcome:

Thing to do in PF is start your own thread instead of continuing someone else's solved thread.

Never mind: if you cut an equilateral triangle (sides length b) in half you can use Pythagoras to find ##d^2 = b^2 - ({1\over 2}b)^2 \ \ ##
 

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