Moment of Inertia through center of mass

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the moment of inertia for a rod with varying density, specifically focusing on finding the mass, center of mass, and moment of inertia through the center of mass. The problem involves concepts from mechanics and integration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the moment of inertia using both the parallel axis theorem and direct integration methods. Questions arise regarding the setup of integration limits and the appropriate use of the density function in calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided clarifications on the importance of including units in calculations and have suggested methods for setting up the integral correctly. There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to calculating the moment of inertia, with no explicit consensus reached on the preferred method.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the need for clarity in the description of calculations and the importance of correctly identifying integration limits when using direct integration methods. There is also mention of errors in previous calculations that need addressing.

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Homework Statement


A rod is 10 ft long and has a density that goes from 4 to 24 lb/ft.

a) Find the mass.
b) Find the center of mass.
c) Find the moment of inertia through the center of mass.


Homework Equations


I = Ml^2
I = I(cm) + Md^2 (parallel axis theorem)


The Attempt at a Solution


So I got figured out the solution to this problem.

a) M = 140
b) x(cm) = 6.19
c) I(cm) = 6.92M

My question revolves around part c. The way I found it was to use the parallel axis theorem. I found the moment of inertia at one end of the rod. Then I subtracted M*d^2 where d= 6.19 (the distance to the center of mass. This gave me the correct answer.

However, I was trying for some time to just get the moment of inertia about the center of mass directly from the definition of moment of inertia, but I couldn't get the integration limits right.

If I have my axis at the center of mass, I don't know how to setup the integral properly. Or is it that you have to use the parallel axis theorem?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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1. You are given units in the OP. Your answers should also reflect the proper units.

2. Your description of the calculation of the moment of inertia is not clear.

3. One way to calculate the moment of inertia is to set up the inertia calculation using one end of the rod as the initial reference point for both the first and second moments of mass. Once these moments are determined about the endpoint, then the PAT can be used to find the moment of inertia about the COM. There should be no confusion about the limits of integration in this case.
 
but I couldn't get the integration limits right.
You can still integrate from 0 to 10, just take the squared distance to the center of mass instead of the position as integrand (multiplied by the density of course).
Or is it that you have to use the parallel axis theorem?
You don't have to.

Your answers have missing units.
 
1. In regards to the units, that's my bad. In haste, I wrote the answers without units.

M = 140 lb
x(cm) = 6.19 ft.

2. I found my error when calculating the moment of inertia about the center of mass. Just as mfb stated, the l^2 term will have to be the distance from the center of mass point, which is (6.19 - l)^2. This would be, of course, multiplied by the density and then integrated from 0 to 10 for the correct answer.

Thanks so much!
 

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