Moment of inertia and Atwood Machine

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The discussion revolves around a lab experiment involving an Atwood Machine, where two masses are suspended by a string over a pulley. The objective is to calculate the moment of inertia of the pulley using the slope from a linear fit of a graph plotting weight difference against acceleration.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the slope of the linear fit and the moment of inertia, noting the importance of the radius of the pulley, which was not measured during the lab. There are attempts to clarify the connection between the masses, their accelerations, and the angular acceleration of the pulley.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the need for the radius of the pulley and have suggested that the moment of inertia can be expressed in terms of the radius. Multiple values for the slope have been presented, indicating ongoing exploration of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants have noted that the pulley is assumed to be frictionless, and there is a lack of information regarding the radius, which is critical for further calculations.

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Homework Statement



The question is from a lab. The lab used an Atwood Machine with two masses suspended string looped over a pulley. The time for one mass to reach the ground was measured and acceleration of the mass was calculated. The results were plotted on a graph of weight difference (Y) vs acceleration (x).

The question is from the linear fit, slope value, calculate the moment of inertia of the pulley.

Linear Fit equation y=mx+b

m(slope): 6.762 g/m/s^2


Homework Equations



I= 1/2mr^2

The Attempt at a Solution



Many attempts at trying to determine the moment of interia from the slope, however I get lost because the radius of the pulley was not measured in the lab. The assumption is made that pulley it self in frictionless.

Thanks in advance
 
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doub said:

Homework Statement



The question is from a lab. The lab used an Atwood Machine with two masses suspended string looped over a pulley. The time for one mass to reach the ground was measured and acceleration of the mass was calculated. The results were plotted on a graph of weight difference (Y) vs acceleration (x).

The question is from the linear fit, slope value, calculate the moment of inertia of the pulley.

Linear Fit equation y=mx+b

m(slope): 6.762 g/m/s^2


Homework Equations



I= 1/2mr^2

The Attempt at a Solution



Many attempts at trying to determine the moment of inertia from the slope, however I get lost because the radius of the pulley was not measured in the lab. The assumption is made that pulley it self in frictionless.

Thanks in advance
Hello doub. Welcome to PF !

Do you know the equation of motion for Atwood Machine ?

You need the two mass values as well as the radius of the pulley. The radius of the pulley gives the connection between the acceleration of the two masses and the angular acceleration of the pulley.

See the Wikipedia article for an Atwood Machine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atwood%27s_machine
 
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I know the two mass values, however we do not know the radius of the pulley.

In the first trial the m1 mass is 122.59 g and the m2 mass is 113.46 g with the accelerations calculated as 0.07 m/s^2

Trial 2 m1 mass 124.34 g m2 mass 111.71 g with the acceleration calculated as 0.21 m/s^2

And a correction on the slope. The slope value s 5.801 g/m/s^2

I'm not sure if that clarifies things
 
doub said:
I know the two mass values, however we do not know the radius of the pulley.

In the first trial the m1 mass is 122.59 g and the m2 mass is 113.46 g with the accelerations calculated as 0.07 m/s^2

Trial 2 m1 mass 124.34 g m2 mass 111.71 g with the acceleration calculated as 0.21 m/s^2

And a correction on the slope. The slope value s 5.801 g/m/s^2

I'm not sure if that clarifies things
The best that you can do is to fine I/r2 .

You'll have two values for that. One from each trial.
 

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