Momentum and impulse of a ball dropped

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a ball dropped from a height, analyzing the momentum and impulse experienced during its collision with the floor. The subject area includes concepts of momentum, impulse, and the effects of forces during collisions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand the relationship between impulse and momentum, questioning the need to consider the direction of momentum before and after the collision. Some participants discuss the vector nature of momentum and how it affects calculations.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaged in clarifying the concepts of momentum and impulse, with some guidance provided regarding the significance of direction in momentum calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of these concepts in the context of the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of an impulse graph that is not visible to all participants, which may affect the clarity of the discussion. The original poster notes a delay in including visual aids due to approval processes.

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Homework Statement


A 231.0 g ball is dropped from a height of 2.60 m, bounces on a hard floor, and rebounds to a height of 1.37 m. The impulse received from the floor is shown below. What maximum force does the floor exert on the ball if it is exerted for 2.00 ms?

Homework Equations


Jx = [tex]\Delta[/tex]p
Fmax*[tex]\Delta[/tex]t = Jx


The Attempt at a Solution


so i though that
Jx = [tex]\Delta[/tex]p
= mvf - mvi
but for this question you have to add the momentums.. is that because at first the momentum is pointing down and then after the collision the momentum is pointing up so they have opposite signs??

thanks for the help!
 
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anyone??
 


It would help if we could actually see the impulse "shown below".

To answer your question: you are still subtracting the momenta. It's just that momentum is a vector quantity (direction is important). Therefore, since one of the momenta has the opposite sign, subtracting a negative = adding.

Think about it intuitively. If you bounce a ball off a wall and it comes off having the same speed as it impacted with, then its change in momentum is not zero. In fact, its change in momentum is quite large (equal to TWICE the magnitude of the momentum it originally had). This is because it has reversed directions.
 


sorry i didnt include the picture just that last time they took so long to approve it. but it is an impulse graph (F vs [tex]\Delta[/tex] t). It has 0 F until t1 and that force is applied until t2 (it is a triangle with the point at Ftmax). and then the force is 0 again
 


but thank you for the explanation, now i understand.. so because momentum is a vector quantity the sign matters :)!
 

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