Momentum and impulse question # 2

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving momentum and impulse in the context of an inelastic collision between two objects with differing masses. Object #1 is motionless and has a mass that is ten times greater than that of object #2, which is moving at a velocity of 50.0 m/s before the collision.

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify how to interpret the mass relationship between the two objects, specifically whether to multiply the mass of object #1 or object #2 by ten. There is confusion regarding the application of the momentum conservation equation and how to assign values to the masses without explicit numerical values provided.

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Some participants have offered guidance on interpreting the mass relationship, emphasizing that object #1's mass should be derived from object #2's mass. There is ongoing exploration of how to set up the momentum equation correctly, with various interpretations being discussed.

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Participants note the absence of specific mass values and express uncertainty about how to proceed with the calculations based on the given information. The discussion reflects a common challenge in understanding mass relationships in physics problems.

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an object #1 is motionless and has a mass 10 times greater than the mass of object #2. if object #2 has a velocity of 50.0 m/s before impacting object #1 and if the collision is inelastic determine the final velocity of the objects...

so i am confused do i mult. object #1 by 10 or object #2 i always get confused by 10 times greater than.. and how am i suppose to find velocity without given any masses?
i know i will use (m1v1 + m2v2) before collision = (m1v1 + m2v2) after collision. equation.. but wt do u plug in for m (mass) ?
i really need help..

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Ereny said:
so i am confused do i mult. object #1 by 10 or object #2 i always get confused by 10 times greater than..

This should clear that up:

Ereny said:
object #1...has a mass...greater than...object #2.

This is a direct quote from your problem statement. All I did was remove some intermediate words and add boldface for emphasis.
 
so that means object #1 is 10 times greater than #2 so i mult object #1 by 10 right?
 
Ereny said:
an object #1 is motionless and has a mass 10 times greater than the mass of object #2. if object #2 has a velocity of 50.0 m/s before impacting object #1 and if the collision is inelastic determine the final velocity of the objects...

so i am confused do i mult. object #1 by 10 or object #2 i always get confused by 10 times greater than.. and how am i suppose to find velocity without given any masses?
i know i will use (m1v1 + m2v2) before collision = (m1v1 + m2v2) after collision. equation.. but wt do u plug in for m (mass) ?
i really need help..

Read more: momentum and impulse question # 2 | Answerbag http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/2697037#ixzz1q6SWOQvt

Generally in a problem, if the answer is affected by the ACTUAL mass, you will be told that mass. If you are told, the ACTUAL mass will not make any difference to the final answer sought.

SO ... let object 1 have a mass of 2kg, and thus object 2 have mass 20 kg and see what you get.
If you suspect you shouldn't do that, repeat the problem with masses of 6kg and 60kg to check the final answer is the same.
 
Ereny said:
so that means object #1 is 10 times greater than #2
Yes

Ereny said:
so i mult object #1 by 10 right?

No.

If object 1 is 10 times more massive than object 2, then this means you need to take the mass of object 2 (the lighter one) and multiply it by 10 in order to get the mass of object 1 (the heavier one). It's all there in the wording:

"mass 1 is ten times mass 2"

m1 = 10 x m2
 
so it will be like this m1v1 + m2v2 = m1v1 + m2v2
1m(0)+ 10m(5om/s) = 11m (v) ??
v= 45.4 m/s ?/?
 
Ereny said:
so it will be like this m1v1 + m2v2 = m1v1 + m2v2
1m(0)+ 10m(5om/s) = 11m (v) ??
v= 45.4 m/s ?/?

It should be 10m*0 + m*(50.0 m/s) = 11m*v

The heavier object is the one that is initially motionless.
 

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