Momentum, Completely Inelastic Collision

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The discussion focuses on analyzing a completely inelastic collision involving two cars, where momentum is conserved despite kinetic energy not being conserved. The scenario describes a traffic accident with specific parameters: Car 1 (2600 lbs) and Car 2 (2200 lbs) collide at an intersection, skidding 56 feet at a 30-degree angle. The coefficient of kinetic friction is 0.80, and the goal is to determine the initial speeds of both drivers using the momentum conservation equation and frictional force calculations.

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Homework Statement



Your friend has just been in a traffic accident and is trying to negotiate with the insurance company of the other driver to pay for fixing his car. he believes that the other car was speeding and therefore the accident was the other driver's fault. He knows that you have a knowledge of physics...(He must not know me very well :)...) and hopes that you can prove his conjecture. He takes you out to the scene of the crash and describes what happened. He was traveling North when he entered the fateful intersection. There was no stop sign, so he looked in both directions and did not see another car approaching. It was a bright, sunny, clear day. When he reached the center of the intersection, his car was struck by the other car which was traveling East. The two cars remained joined together after the collision and skidded to a stop. The speed limit on both roads entering the intersection is 50 mph. From the skid marks still visible on the street, you determine that after the collision the cars skidded 56 feet at an angle of 30 degrees N of E before stopping. (blah blah blah more facts): His car(1) is 2600 lbs and the other drivers car(2) is 2200 lbs (including weight of the drivers). Coefficient of Kinetic Friction= 0.80...I have to find both speeds of the drivers.

m1=Mass of Car 1 = 2600 lbs
m2=Mass Car 2 = 2200 lbs
uk=Coeff. Kinetic Friction = 0.80
dx=56 ft
@=Theta=30 degrees



Homework Equations



mv=p where p is conserved.

All of Newton's laws of motion... vf=vi +at, dx=vit+1/2at^2, vf^2=vi^2+2ad

KE=1/2mv^2 (even though its a completely inelastic collision, i might use it)

friction=uN

F=ma

F(friction)*d=Work done by friction


The Attempt at a Solution



Since it is a completely inelastic collision, KE is not conserved; however, momentum is conserved.

Here is the momentum equation:

m1v1(j)+m2v2(i)=(m1+m2)*V

Using dot product rules:

Vx=(m2v2)/(m1+m2)

Vy=(m1v1)/(m1+m2)

V=(Vx^2+Vy^2)^.5

Since F(friction)=uN, F=0.8*(2200+2600)*(g) =====>don't worry about converting, i'll do that.

So here can I solve for (a) using F=ma? I would have:

a=F(friction)/(2200+2600). Then using that, I could solve for t in above question. Is this correct or am I missing something important?

Once I solve for (t) I can solve for V(initial). Then I can substitute for Vx, Vy. When Vx=Driver 1, and Vy=driver 2.
 
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most of it looks right. But why do you want to get t? Just get Vinitial directly. Then get Vx and Vy. then you can solve for v1 and v2.

but what do you mean by this:

Vx=Driver 1, and Vy=driver 2.

? This isn't right. v1 is not Vx. v2 is not Vy.
 

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