Momentum increased in electron-positron annihilation?

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The problem involves an electron and a positron colliding at high speeds, leading to their annihilation and the creation of photons. The focus is on understanding the conservation of momentum and energy in this context, as well as calculating the frequencies of the resulting photons.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the conservation of momentum and energy, with one noting discrepancies in their calculations. Questions arise about the implications of momentum before and after the collision, particularly regarding the directionality of the photons produced.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the implications of momentum conservation in the context of the problem. Some guidance is offered regarding the assumptions of head-on collision and the direction of photon momentum, but there remains uncertainty about the interpretation of absolute momentum values.

Contextual Notes

There is an assumption that the electron and positron collide head-on, which influences the momentum calculations. The discussion also touches on the distinction between total momentum conservation and individual particle momentum.

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Homework Statement



An electron and a positron is on a collision course. Both have a speed of 1,80*10^8 m/s.
What are the frequencies of the two photons created after the electron and the positron has annihilated?

Electron mass=positron mass= 9,11*10^-31 kg

Homework Equations



E=γmc^2
P=E/C
E=hf

The Attempt at a Solution



When I first tried solving this problem using the fact that momentum is conserved before and after the collision, I got the wrong answer:

Pbefore=γmv=4,10*10^-22 kgm/s

Pafter=Pbefore

Pafter=2*(hf/c) => f=(c*Pbefore)/(2h)=9,27*10^19 Hz.
This is wrong according to my textbook. But when I do the same calculation, using that energy is conserved, I get that the frequency of each photon is 1,55*10^20, which is correct according to the textbook.

This is weird because my textbook says that momentum and the total energy of an isolated system is always conserved.

When I calculate the momentum of the system after the collision, using that each photon has a frequency of 1,55*10^20 Hz, I get:

Pafter= 2(hf)/c = 6,85*10^-22 kgm/s. Doesn't that mean that the momentum of the system has INCREASED? What am I doing wrong?
 
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The momentum of the system depends on the direction of electron and positron. If they collide head-on (and I think you are supposed to assume this here), the total momentum is zero.
The photons will be produced back to back with the same frequency, so the total momentum afterwards is zero, too.
 
Yes they do collide head-on. And the Photons afterwards have opposite directions. But still the absolute value of the momentum has increased after the collision. Isn't this against the laws of physics?
 
The momentum is 0, and the absolute value of 0 is 0 as well.
You sum the absolute momenta of individual particles - but that is not a conserved quantity in physics.
 
No, it isn't. Only the total momentum of the system is conserved, not the individual momenta.
 

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