Momentum/Kinetic Energy Problem

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The problem involves a collision between two cars, focusing on the concepts of momentum and kinetic energy. The original poster presents a scenario where a moving car collides with a stationary car, with specific mass and speed ratios provided. The goal is to determine the final speed of the second car as a fraction of the initial speed of the first car.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use both conservation of momentum and conservation of energy to solve the problem but encounters discrepancies in their results. Some participants question the assumptions regarding the nature of the collision, particularly whether it is elastic or inelastic.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the conservation laws applicable to the problem. There is a recognition of the potential misunderstanding regarding the collision type, and some participants suggest that the problem may not clearly state whether the collision is elastic.

Contextual Notes

There is ambiguity regarding the classification of the collision as elastic or inelastic, which affects the application of conservation laws. The original poster notes that their calculations yield results that are close when using both conservation methods, indicating a possible misunderstanding or misinterpretation of the problem's requirements.

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Homework Statement


A car moving with an initial speed v collides with a second stationary car that is 52.9 percent as massive. After the collision the first car moves in the same direction as before with a speed that is 31.8 percent of the original speed. Calculate the final speed of the second car. Give your answer in units of the initial speed (i.e. as a fraction of v).

Homework Equations


P=mv
Ke=(1/2)mv^2


The Attempt at a Solution


I've attempted this solution using the conservation of momentum and the conservation of energy. I seem to get different answer with both though. I don't understand why I can't use the conservation of energy law to figure out this problem instead of using the conservation of momentum. Help is much appreciated

Thanks, ClassicRock
 
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In a collision, momentum is always conserved; however, kinetic energy is conserved only in elastic collisions. Your calculations suggest the collision isn't elastic.
 
The collision is elastic. That is actually the second part of the question.
 
it's not stated that the collision is elastic.So you cannot use conservation of energy in this case.

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My calculations show the collision is nearly elastic but not quite.
 
In the second part of the question it states that this is an elastic collision. Maybe that's why when I use the conservation of energy my number is within .01 of the conservation of momentum answer.
conservation of momentum gives me 1.29
conservation of energy gives me 1.30
 
Thank you for the help. Maybe the problem set has the wrong answer
 

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