Momentum problem with collision

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The discussion revolves around an elastic collision problem involving a cue ball and an eight ball, where the cue ball strikes the stationary eight ball. The initial speed of the cue ball is given, along with its final speed and an unknown angle theta. Participants are tasked with finding the speed of the eight ball after the collision.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the velocities of the balls post-collision, questioning how to approach the problem without the angle theta. There are discussions about breaking the problem into components and using momentum and energy conservation principles.

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The discussion is active, with various participants offering different perspectives on how to tackle the problem. Some suggest using the coefficient of restitution and the line of collision, while others emphasize the conservation of momentum and kinetic energy. There is no clear consensus on the best approach, and multiple interpretations are being explored.

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Participants note the lack of certain information, such as the angle theta, and express uncertainty about the methods being discussed. There are references to different educational levels and familiarity with concepts like the coefficient of restitution and the line of collision, indicating varying backgrounds among participants.

  • #31
I would say that this collision is to be modeled as a perfectly elastic collision, and so you can use conservation of kinetic energy as well as conservation of momentum.

(This also means you don't need to worry about the coefficient of restitution, which I gather you haven't been taught).
 
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  • #32
if i use conservation of energy why do i need to use conservation of momentum? I know that i should use both but:
before collision: all kinetic energy
after:all kinetic
there's no friction and everything is perfect so if i set the kinetic energy from before equal to after I would just have one unknown(the answer) to solve.
1/2mv^2=1/2mv^2+1/2mv^2
basically the 1/2 and mass all cancel
so:
3.7^2=2.1^2+V^2
V=3.04
this definitely doesn't seem right...
 
  • #33
yeah i tried what was above and it was right... w/o any momentum...strange
 
  • #34
hey, check ur gmail inbox
 

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