Momentum update with air resistance

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The discussion revolves around integrating air resistance into momentum update formulas, particularly in the context of a falling ball. Participants explore the relationship between forces acting on the ball, including gravitational force and air resistance, while considering the implications for momentum and energy changes.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to integrate the air resistance formula into the momentum update equation and seeks clarification on the correct application of forces. Some participants provide insights into Newton's second law and the relationship between momentum and forces. Additional questions arise regarding the calculation of thermal energy changes associated with air resistance.

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Participants have engaged in a productive dialogue, with some offering guidance on the application of forces in momentum calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of how to quantify changes in thermal energy, with suggestions to consider specific scenarios or start new threads for further clarification.

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Participants note the need for more details regarding the specific system and types of energy changes being discussed, indicating that assumptions about the scenario may affect the analysis.

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this isn't really a homework question but yaa its just a question.
how do you integrate the air resistance formula into the momentum update formula??F
Fair = C*[tex]\rho[/tex]A*v^2
and the momentum update formula is Pfinal=Pinitial +Fg[tex]\Delta[/tex]t

i used Fg instead of Fnet because in my situation i have falling ball

someone help please :)
 
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You can write Newton's 2nd law as

[tex]\frac{d\vec{p}}{dt} = \vec{F}_g + \vec{F}_{\text{air}},[/tex]

where [tex]\vec{p} = m \vec{v}[/tex] is the momentum of the particle.
 
yaa i figured it out thanks anywayssss :) do you know how to find change in thermal energy?? like is there an equation?
 
ohheytai said:
do you know how to find change in thermal energy?? like is there an equation?

It would help to have more details about the system and type of change you're talking about. If you have a specific type of problem in mind, you might want to start a new thread about it.
 
its just throwing a ball in the air like what's the change in thermal energy?
 
The energy lost to air resistance is the change in thermal energy. There's a couple of ways to determine it, depending on what information you're given. The energy of the ball is

[tex]E = \frac{mv^2}{2} + mgh,[/tex]

where [tex]v[/tex] is the speed and [tex]h[/tex] is the height. If you know the speed is [tex]v_1[/tex] at height [tex]h_1[/tex] and [tex]v_2[/tex] at height [tex]h_2[/tex], you can just compute the difference in energies.

There are also some differential equations that you can obtain by considering the work done by air resistance.
 

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