MONIAC Computer Programming Company

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the creation of a fictional alternate history involving MONIAC Computers, exploring their development timeline, military applications, and commercial viability in the context of a soft sci-fi novel. Participants share ideas about historical influences and technological advancements relevant to the narrative.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Historical
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the MONIAC Computers could be portrayed as a secret military project, influencing the pace of computer development due to limited knowledge among the public.
  • Another proposes a timeline for the fictional development of computers, including stages like arithmetic functions, conditional logic, and advancements in memory storage technology.
  • Several participants request and share recommendations for books on computer history to aid in research.
  • A participant points out the real MONIAC's purpose as a demonstration of macroeconomics rather than military use, questioning the fictional adaptation of its concept.
  • Another participant acknowledges the real MONIAC's historical context and suggests an alternate history where its design is adapted for military economics, leading to innovation.
  • One participant introduces a different alternate history scenario involving Conrad Zuse's computers evolving into robotics through integrated circuit technology.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the historical accuracy of the MONIAC's purpose and its adaptation in the fictional narrative. There is no consensus on the best approach to integrate real historical elements with the fictional storyline.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the historical accuracy of the MONIAC's development and its intended applications, as well as the implications of using real historical figures and events in the fictional context.

gusty737
I'm creating a alternate history/soft sci-fi novel with a company that developed and tested MONIAC Computers for the military before programming for profit in the 1960's. I'm looking to determine a fictional development timeline as well as a way to figure out the commercial use and profitability of the MONIAC.
 
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Since it's for the military, it would be a secret project so most people wouldn't know about it. From there you might be able to slow the history of computers as less knowledgeable people means less new developments unless there is a clear need like say WWII is still being waged.

You could perhaps follow the enigma decoding effort by Turing and others and sprinkle in the development of Atanasov and his novel machine who's concepts found their way into the ENIAC of Mauchley and Eckert.

Another history to consider is the Conrad Zuse electromechanical computer that was replaced by the development of the transistor in the 1960s.

A timeline might be:

Computer can do arithmetic functions
Conditional logic and go to capability added
Subroutine capability added
Memory storage moves from vacuum tubes to magnetic core to transistor to ic
Similar line for other hardware
...

There's some books on computer history on amazon that may help and on WWII Operations that were planned but never happened.
 
could you recommend some helpful computer history books? i like to get reading lists for my research books.
 
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I'm a bit confused by your post. There was a real MONIAC analog computer that was designed and built after WWII, but it was meant as a physical demonstration of how macro economics worked, and had nothing to do with military intelligence. Google will find the details. There are several copies of it in museums etc around the world. Or is your MONIAC an invented name in your alternate history?

This http://www.amazon.com/dp/0471048852/?tag=pfamazon01-20 is mainly about Seymour Cray and the development of supercomputers, but the early chapters have some nice stories about the rather chaotic start of the commercial computer industry in the USA after the end of WWII - but nothing much about the WWII military systems themselves.
 
i know about the real MONIAC. i know it was used for economics in the real world and that it was developed in new zealand. the alternate history bit was that the soviet union in reality saw promise in its design but passed it over for analog computing instead. the POD in the alternate history was that the company adapted the basic MONIAC structure for military economics and achieved some sort of innovation that way.
 
gusty737 said:
i know about the real MONIAC. i know it was used for economics in the real world and that it was developed in new zealand. the alternate history bit was that the soviet union in reality saw promise in its design but passed it over for analog computing instead. the POD in the alternate history was that the company adapted the basic MONIAC structure for military economics and achieved some sort of innovation that way.


Another alternative history track could be that Conrad Zuse computers win the day, take over and being electromechanical in design evolve into robotics and then extend them with recently discovered integrated circuit tech creating a thinking robot...
 

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