Most difficult graduate physics core class?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying the most difficult core class for physics graduate students, with participants sharing their experiences and opinions on various courses such as Electrodynamics, Quantum Mechanics, and Methods of Mathematical Physics. The scope includes subjective assessments of difficulty based on teaching styles, course content, and individual strengths.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that Electrodynamics is particularly challenging, especially if it involves problems from Jackson.
  • Others argue that the difficulty of courses depends significantly on the lecturers and their expectations.
  • A participant mentions that their experience in Quantum Mechanics was the hardest, contrasting it with their approach to Electrodynamics.
  • One participant notes that the perceived difficulty is influenced by the curriculum, professor, textbook, and the overall level of students in the class.
  • Another participant highlights that their struggle with Methods of Mathematical Physics I stemmed from the course being taught by a mathematician rather than a physicist.
  • There is a request for an informal poll to rank the courses from hardest to easiest, indicating a desire for collective insights.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the validity of ranking courses due to the subjective nature of the question.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the difficulty of courses varies widely based on several factors, including teaching style and individual student strengths. However, there is no consensus on which specific course is the hardest, as opinions differ significantly.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the question is ill-defined and that responses may vary greatly based on personal experiences and institutional differences.

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One of my teachers keeps on saying that her subject is one of the most difficult, without any proof, and she says this everyday, and it's getting old, so I thought I'd like to take an informal poll to determine the truth:

What is the most difficult core class for physics graduate students out of the following classes:

Methods of Mathematical Physics I
Advanced Mechanics I (this is classical mechanics)
Quantum Mechanics I
Quantum Mechanics II
Electrodynamics I
Statistical Physics I

If you could list them from hardest to easiest that would be great.
 
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My estimation would be Electrodynamics, assuming that it uses problems from Jackson.
 
It really depends on what specifically is required for the courses
 
Course level and difficulty depends on the lecturers and TAs.
 
As others have said, it depends on who teaches it and what they expect.

Although I don't think you can teach out of Jackson and expect the word "easy" to describe anything for the first half of that whole text.
 
For me, QM was the hardest. My E&M class used Jackson, but I figured out the secret pretty fast - no one knows how to solve those problems, including my professors, so I just made up stuff. Got me A's in the class and that was my highest score on the qualifier. Or maybe I have a gift for E&M - who knows, I was never a fan of the subject. QM was more interesting to me although I couldn't BS my way through it as easily.
 
I understand that a question like this is ill-defined, as it depends on the university's curriculum, the professor, the book chosen, the level of the other students in the class, and individual strengths and weaknesses.

So each person might differ greatly from the next, but I wanted to see if on average, there were any trends. Of course this is informal, and you can't draw any scientific conclusions from the answers to this type of ill-defined question, but it bothers me that one of my teachers says her subject is the hardest and reminds us of this everyday, and I don't know on what basis she says this, so I wanted some data to back her assertion.
 
RedX said:
One of my teachers keeps on saying that her subject is one of the most difficult, without any proof, and she says this everyday, and it's getting old, so I thought I'd like to take an informal poll to determine the truth:

What is the most difficult core class for physics graduate students out of the following classes:

Methods of Mathematical Physics I
Advanced Mechanics I (this is classical mechanics)
Quantum Mechanics I
Quantum Mechanics II
Electrodynamics I
Statistical Physics I

If you could list them from hardest to easiest that would be great.

When you say "physics graduate courses" do you mean undergrad or grad level?
 
lisab said:
When you say "physics graduate courses" do you mean undergrad or grad level?

Grad level. I chose to list those particular courses because those are the core courses that all grads have to take at my college, but what's considered "core" might differ from college to college.
 
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A lot depends on the teacher, but for me it was Methods of Mathematical Physics I because for the physics classes I could associate things with the "real world", and the class was taught by a mathematician rather than a physicist.
 
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Quantum Electrodynamics !
 

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