Most Likely Position of an Electron

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The discussion centers on the radial probability density of an electron in the 1s state of a hydrogen atom, specifically its peak at the Bohr radius (a0). Participants clarify that while the probability density function (|ψ|2) peaks at the nucleus, the actual likelihood of finding the electron near the nucleus is lower due to the volume element in spherical coordinates. The conversation emphasizes that "most probable" does not equate to "probable," and the electron's position cannot be accurately described in Cartesian coordinates due to the non-commuting nature of quantum mechanical variables.

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  • Understanding of quantum mechanics concepts, particularly wave functions and probability densities.
  • Familiarity with the Schrödinger equation and its application to hydrogen atoms.
  • Knowledge of spherical coordinates and their relationship to Cartesian coordinates in quantum mechanics.
  • Basic grasp of quantum mechanical operators and their commutation relations.
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Vanadium 50 said:
My point is that they don't commute with the variables you have already specified. Maybe that was unclear.

And while you can calculate what the probability was, you cant calculate what it is. "The electron is in a 1S state" and "the electron is over here" (or even "not over here") are incompatible.
Sigh. Of course you can, in principle, ask about the position of an electron in the 1S state of a hydrogen atom. Nothing forbids to measure observables of a system only because the system is not in an eigenstate of the measured observable. It's only that due to the preparation in this state the position is indetermined, and you'll find a probability density when repeating the same measurement on many electrons prepared in this 1S state.
 
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