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The discussion centers on selecting appropriate physics textbooks for individuals with varying backgrounds, particularly those looking to refresh their knowledge after a significant gap. Recommendations include the "11th Edition College Physics" and "Alonso and Finn: Fundamental University Physics," both noted for their comprehensive problem sets and clear explanations. Participants emphasize the importance of foundational knowledge in calculus to tackle physics problems effectively, suggesting that a solid grasp of basic concepts is crucial before advancing to more complex topics. The conversation also highlights the distinction between learning for personal interest versus academic or professional requirements.

PREREQUISITES
  • Basic understanding of calculus concepts
  • Familiarity with introductory physics principles
  • Experience with problem-solving techniques in physics
  • Knowledge of current physics curricula and textbooks
NEXT STEPS
  • Research "Alonso and Finn: Fundamental University Physics" for in-depth understanding of physics concepts
  • Explore "Basic Technical Mathematics with Calculus, 10th Edition" for foundational math skills
  • Investigate online resources for free mock physics classes to enhance problem-solving skills
  • Review calculus textbooks such as Thomas' Calculus for better application in physics
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Students returning to physics after a break, educators seeking effective teaching materials, and anyone aiming to strengthen their problem-solving skills in physics and mathematics.

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Hi, new here.
what textbook would be best to use? 11th edition College Physics? is there any books that have a lot of questions and problems and they walk you through it? what would be the best way to train to solve these physics problems in a short amount of time off the top of your head?
 
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Depends, what is your physics background? If you have a PhD in physics who has taken a year off, the answer will be different than if you are a middle school student who wants to learn more.
 
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Depends, what is your physics background? If you have a PhD in physics who has taken a year off, the answer will be different than if you are a middle school student who wants to learn more.
about five years experience with all the undergrad lower division courses at non-university. then about five years no academics, memory faded.
original textbooks look familiar like newspaper but problems still hard to solve. I've copied a lot of the sections into my own words and going through a lot of the problems, but I cannot recall any of it. i know there are a lot of free mock classes dedicated to making ordinary online users physics literate.
I am looking for a book that is geared towards the newest physics curriculum of educating people, but I know just a Calculus based physics book does not cover the specifics with fields and deeper math approaches for everything.
 
If you can't do the elementary problems, you will not be able to do something with "deeper math approaches to everything". If afraid you are asking for something that doesn't exist to enable you to do something impossible.
 
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If you remember calculus, you maybe try Alonso and Finn: Fundamental University Physics. Topic explanations are brief, but well written. Exercises can be challenging. Almost everything is derived.

Going through the 3 book series will allow you to jump to upper division books with no problems.

What you are asking for is unrealistic. You may need to approach physics as if it was your first time.
 
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Anonymous User said:
Hi, new here.
what textbook would be best to use? 11th edition College Physics? is there any books that have a lot of questions and problems and they walk you through it? what would be the best way to train to solve these physics problems in a short amount of time off the top of your head?

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about five years experience with all the undergrad lower division courses at non-university. then about five years no academics, memory faded.
original textbooks look familiar like newspaper but problems still hard to solve. I've copied a lot of the sections into my own words and going through a lot of the problems, but I cannot recall any of it. i know there are a lot of free mock classes dedicated to making ordinary online users physics literate.
I am looking for a book that is geared towards the newest physics curriculum of educating people, but I know just a Calculus based physics book does not cover the specifics with fields and deeper math approaches for everything.

But what are you doing all of this for? There is a different approach if you are simply doing this for fun and for your own knowledge, versus doing this because you wish to be up to speed for some academic or employment purpose. The former doesn't require you to be properly prepared, whereas the latter does and will require us knowing the exact target that you are shooting for.

Zz.
 
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Thanks for the input. I think I am looking for the physics book that is being distributed and taught by the most schools currently. I hope this math book will be good to help with first impression pitfalls when looking at a physics problem. there is the science and building a math function out of a word problem scenario.
 
Anonymous User said:
Thanks for the input. I think I am looking for the physics book that is being distributed and taught by the most schools currently. I hope this math book will be good to help with first impression pitfalls when looking at a physics problem. there is the science and building a math function out of a word problem scenario.

Remember, most used does not usually mean the best.
Alonso and Finn are really good books that are not used anymore. I believe, its mostly do to students poor math background.
Really neat derivation. Everything is build from scratch.

If you want a decent calculus book...

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GMPZBGA/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Very good book.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/053439339X/?tag=pfamazon01-20
This book is ok. Use it for problems... I would read the explanations in Thomas, then do problems in stewart.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000L3UO2A/?tag=pfamazon01-20
My favorite calculus book. A forgotten gem. Great balance between theory and applied. Really neat coverage of topics. Explains the Nested Interval Postulate, and how it is equivalent to some other mathematical statements.

This book may be a little hard, but you will become good at the application of calculus to physics problems.
 
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11 editions? If they can't get it right by the second edition, they should just give up.

There aren't 11 editions because of constant advances in pedagogy or great new discoveries in freshman physics, there are 11 editions to reduce competition from used book sales. Your original textbooks are just fine.
 

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