Most Underrated Bass Player

[Hornbein]

Gotta be Steve Rodby of the Pat Metheny Group. My does that sound good.

 

[pinball1970]

Gotta be Steve Rodby of the Pat Metheny Group. My does that sound good.

You know a lot more players (and music) than me. I would have to go through all my favourite bands and bassists and see how "rated" they were.
Chris Squire would be deemed rated and make most top ten best bassists lists but John Camp from Renaissance probably would not.

The bass in "Northern lights" is amazing and very Squiresque.

 

[pinball1970]

Gotta be Steve Rodby of the Pat Metheny Group. My does that sound good.

So E bass and double.

 

[pinball1970]

Here is a version. What kind of bass is it!? It sounds like a growling Ricky but with a double neck.

 

[pinball1970]

Stevie Wonder underated? Get outta here!

Ok but will everyone know who the bass player was on the mid 70s fantastic creative period? Sure Stevie would have played the bass line and said "this please," and Nathan Watts would have said...1.02



I saw him at the MEN around 2008 ish and he played it as per the single complete with those crazy slurs. Brilliant.

 

[pinball1970]

Gotta be Steve Rodby of the Pat Metheny Group. My does that sound good.

When I retire I am just going to spend a few days with this kind of music playing.

 

[pinball1970]

This bass has real "movement." If he would have just played straight quavers it would not have sounded as good. It is probably one of the best Motown songs ever which helped.

Is it James Jameson?

 

[pinball1970]

This is JJ

 

[pinball1970]

John Glascock

 

[Hornbein]

Here is a version. What kind of bass is it!? It sounds like a growling Ricky but with a double neck.

It's a bass and guitar, custom made by Dick Knight. Chris Squire's sound included using a pick, playing through a guitar amplifier, and changing his roundwound strings every day. That was revolutionary when flatwound strings were the norm. Ebasses were sold with foam rubber mufflers on the strings.

He's a really good player, exciting to listen to. I don't know why that style lost favor. Even Chris stopped playing that way.

 

[Hornbein]

This bass has real "movement." If he would have just played straight quavers it would not have sounded as good. It is probably one of the best Motown songs ever which helped.

Is it James Jameson?

Rolling Stone says Bob Babbitt. Solid as can be, makes the band sound good, mixed way over the rest of the band.

 

[Hornbein]

The Motown style lives. Yein Kim.

 

[Hornbein]

More Bob Babbitt. That's what an ebass with a foam rubber mute sounds like. His note choice is very hip.

 

[sandy stone]

John Glascock

Glenn Cornick

 

[pinball1970]

Glenn Cornick

He recorded with them earlier but is was Glascock on Songs from the Wood.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Glascock

 

[pinball1970]

Just to add, this is Glen Cornick. Beautiful warm sound and with movement.

 

[pinball1970]

Ok I'm doing songs rather than bassists because a lot of the bands had many players.

This was my favourite prog band before discovered the amazing Chris Squire.

Martijn Dresden but later line ups were better I.M.O.I guess they had a lot great musicians around at that time.

 

[Astronuc]

What kind of bass is it!? It sounds like a growling Ricky but with a double neck.

Jon Camp played Rickenbachers on the albums and live, at when I saw them in 1977.

Just to add, this is Glen Cornick. Beautiful warm sound and with movement.

Glenn Cornick plays bass on A Song for Jeffrey, live at the Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus (1968). The song is on the Jethro Tull album, This Was.





For Jon Camp was in a class of his own. Camp passed away recently on December 13th, 2024 at age 75. Annie Haslam and Terry Sullivan did a nice tribute to him. One of my roommates in college introduced to me to Renaissance with their Prologue Album in 1976. I then found their second album, Ashes Are Burning, in 1976. They released a live album in 1976, the fourth side of a double LP set was a long version of Ashes Are Burning with a bass solo by Camp. It's my favorite tune by Renaissance followed by Can You Here Me and Can You Understand.

. (listen to this version first).


Doug Helvering did his own tribute to Camp, but he talks over the tune, although it's somewhat instructive.





Another live version of Ashes Are Burning - 5/21/1976 - Capitol Theatre (very different from Carnegie Hall)




Camp use bass pedals as well, and he did some interesting things with the pedal and modifying bass output. One can hear Camp use the pedals from 6:30 through 8:00 and about 9:10 in the following video.

 

[sandy stone]

He recorded with them earlier but is was Glascock on Songs from the Wood.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Glascock

Yes, sorry, I was suggesting Cornick as another nominee. (In my opinion, in the best incarnation of the band along with Barriemore Barlow and Clive Bunker)

 

[Hornbein]

My fave Glenn Cornick thing. Heard here is the studio version.



The guitar version was the only classical thing I ever learned to play.

 

[Hornbein]

Those new Yamaha basses are sounding good. Low midrangy.

 

[DaveC426913]

This guy.

 

[Astronuc]

My fave Glenn Cornick thing. Heard here is the studio version.

Tull's Bourrée is the tune I was thinking of when I saw Cornick's name. Another great bass player strumming his bass. I saw Tull about three times during the mid to late 1970s - always a great concert. Bourrée is the third tune on Jethro Tull's Stand Up album, which was originally released in 1969.

Leo Kotke fronted for Renaissance when I saw them in concert. I thought that was an interesting combination of performances.

 

[Mondayman]

Keith Richards played bass on a number of good Rolling Stones tunes while Bill was busy out having tea and chasing (young) women. Keith would have been a good bassist in my opinion. TBH, Bill is a solid bass player as well.

Dusty Hill was a good bass player. I was always surprised at how full ZZ Top sounded as a trio.

Mike Starr from Alice in Chains. He doesn't get much if any recognition.

 

[pinball1970]

Keith Richards played bass on a number of good Rolling Stones tunes while Bill was busy out having tea and chasing (young) women. Keith would have been a good bassist in my opinion. TBH, Bill is a solid bass player as well.

Dusty Hill was a good bass player. I was always surprised at how full ZZ Top sounded as a trio.

Mike Starr from Alice in Chains. He doesn't get much if any recognition.

If Pete Townsend did play bass on Thunderclap Newman's "Something in the air," he would have been pretty good too.

 

[pinball1970]

This guy.

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Who is it?

 

[DaveC426913]

Who is it?

A guy holding a bass.

 

[Astronuc]

Here is a list.

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/art...5_most_underrated_bassists_of_all_time-115127

25. Noel Redding (Jimi Hendrix Experience)
18. Michael Anthony (Van Halen)
5. Dusty Hill (ZZ Top

1. Carol Kaye
And the winning spot here goes to a bassist who worked on approximately 10000 sessions (yes, that much). And it's unfortunate to know that most rock fans don't even know about her! To put it simply, Carol Kaye is one mean bass player.

There is also James Dewar who played bass and did lead vocals with Robin Trower.

I was thinking there is probably several session bassist who never get recognized outside of the music industry.

Another list that included Donald "Duck" Dunn and Carol Kaye.
https://aimm.edu/blog/5-best-bass-guitarists-youve-never-heard-of

I heard about Dunn recently.

 

[pinball1970]

Here is a list.

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/art...5_most_underrated_bassists_of_all_time-115127

25. Noel Redding (Jimi Hendrix Experience)
18. Michael Anthony (Van Halen)
5. Dusty Hill (ZZ Top

1. Carol Kaye
And the winning spot here goes to a bassist who worked on approximately 10000 sessions (yes, that much). And it's unfortunate to know that most rock fans don't even know about her! To put it simply, Carol Kaye is one mean bass player.

There is also James Dewar who played bass and did lead vocals with Robin Trower.

I was thinking there is probably several session bassist who never get recognized outside of the music industry.

Another list that included Donald "Duck" Dunn and Carol Kaye.
https://aimm.edu/blog/5-best-bass-guitarists-youve-never-heard-of

I heard about Dunn recently.

Yes I have been looking at some of the lists. I will have to check out a few I don't know.

 

[Astronuc]

I bought a cheap bass way back in college. It was a knock of a Fender bass with a hollow body and cheap pickups. A played a little, but not serious enough to perform. I taught myself parts of Jon Camp's bass solo for the live performance of Ashes Are Burning at Carnegie Hall.

I've always loved the electric bass and organs in rock performance ever since I heard Iron Butterfly's In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida (1968), with Lee Dorman on bass, Doug Ingle on keyboards, Erik Brann on guitar and Ron Bushy on drums. Most folks probably remember Bushy's classic drum solo.