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The discussion centers on the motivations behind J.J. Thomson's plum pudding model of the atom, particularly its formulation based on cathode ray experiments. Thomson proposed that electrons are arranged in concentric rings within a uniformly charged sphere, which he believed would better explain the chemical properties of atoms. The original paper by Thomson, published in 1904, provides insights into his reasoning and methodology. For a deeper understanding, historical accounts of Thomson's experiments and biographies are recommended.

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Hello!

Is anyone able to direct me to information regarding the motivation of the plum pudding model of the atom (as opposed to a simply a collection of positive and negative charges)?

I am looking for an explanation at the advanced undergrad + level. I recall once reading an explanation in an introductory book, but forgetting it because I was able to recognise that it was a bogus exposition.
 
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Your best bet is to try to find a biography of J.J. Thomson somewhere. Or at least an historical account of his cathode ray experiments. I know he formatted his hypothesis of the plum pudding model based on the results of those experiments, but I don't know much beyond what you can easily find on wikipedia and elsewhere.
 
There is a link on the bottom of the wikipedia page to an excerpt of Thomson's original paper. I have found the whole paper here :

http://www.cond-mat.physik.uni-mainz.de/~oettel/ws10/thomson_PhilMag_7_237_1904.pdf

In it, Thomson seems to show that if the electrons are restriceted to move in various planes whose centers are the center of a uniformly charged shpere, they will find their equilibrium in concentric rings in those various planes.

I cannot infer why he would use a uniform sphere of positive charge rather than a point charge though, other than that he anticipated the former would provide better test implications (about the chemical properties of various atoms, for instance). I may have to wait until I get back to my university to continue investigating, if I have time.
 
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