Motor which operate solely on magnet and gravity?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of creating a motor that operates solely on magnets and gravitational force. Participants explore various designs and concepts while questioning the validity of such mechanisms in light of established physical laws, particularly the second law of thermodynamics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses skepticism about existing models of motors that operate solely on magnets and gravity, questioning their authenticity and seeking verified designs.
  • Another participant suggests a method involving a paddle wheel and magnets, proposing that dropping magnets onto the wheel could generate electricity without external energy input.
  • A different approach is proposed involving a permanent magnet on a Foucault pendulum, suggesting that the interaction with the Earth's magnetic field could add kinetic energy.
  • One participant argues that such a motor would violate the second law of thermodynamics and mentions that discussions on perpetual motion or free energy are banned due to these violations.
  • Concerns are raised about the limited energy stored in a magnet's field and the inability to control it in the same way as traditional motors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the feasibility of a motor operating solely on magnets and gravity, with some proposing potential designs while others assert that such concepts violate fundamental physical laws.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations regarding the energy input required for motors and the implications of the second law of thermodynamics on the proposed designs. There is also mention of the restrictions on discussing perpetual motion machines.

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I received an assignment from my professor which sounds like follow:

"Suggest a motor which operates only on magnets and gravitational force."

While I did make a search online and found some model which seems to work, I am sill a little skeptical (There are videos online, but none of them are authentic). Are there any design which full fills such requirement, and has been verified? I was told that such machine would not violate the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics because the magnet itself is the energy source. Can anyone verified / debunk this?

Thanks in advanced.
 
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Without any external energy input - it's going to be tricky.
Otherwise it's quite easy.
1, Attach plastic paddle wheel to electric motor.
2, Stand above it
3, Drop magnets onto paddle wheel.
4, Motor turns - generates electricity
 
You may try putting a permanent magnet on a Focault pendulum.
As the pendulum precesses the magnetic interacts with the Earth's magnetic field and adds kinetic energy!
 
It not only violates the second law, it also violates Ivan's law. :biggrin:

Perpetual motion/free energy discussions are banned because it [such a motor] would violate the second law.

There is a small amount of energy stored in the field of a magnet, but only a very little bit. And there is no way to switch it on and off as we would do for a motor using electromagnets, brushes, and a rotor.
 

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