Moving on from Single Variable to Multivariable Calculus: Marsden or Stewart?

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The discussion revolves around transitioning from single variable calculus to multivariable calculus, specifically comparing the textbooks by Stewart and Marsden. Participants explore the adequacy of their current understanding of single variable calculus and seek advice on how to prepare for multivariable calculus, considering their backgrounds and future applications in physics and engineering.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about their readiness to move on to multivariable calculus without a rigorous foundation in single variable calculus.
  • Some participants suggest that a solid understanding of single variable calculus is essential before tackling multivariable calculus.
  • There are inquiries about efficient ways to review single variable calculus without completing all exercises in Stewart's book.
  • Some participants argue that it's unnecessary to do every exercise and recommend focusing on those that build comfort with the material.
  • One participant mentions the importance of assessing their performance on the AP Calculus exam as a measure of readiness for multivariable calculus.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for deeper understanding beyond the AP Calculus BC material to succeed in multivariable calculus.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that a solid foundation in single variable calculus is beneficial, but there is no consensus on the necessity of completing all exercises or the best approach to review. Multiple competing views on how to prepare effectively remain present.

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Participants express varying levels of comfort with single variable calculus concepts and the adequacy of their preparation for multivariable calculus. There are references to specific exercises and sections in Stewart's book, indicating a reliance on particular resources for learning.

Who May Find This Useful

Students transitioning from single variable to multivariable calculus, particularly those preparing for AP Calculus exams or pursuing studies in physics and engineering.

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Hello everyone.

I needed some guidance with calculus. I am currently a (sophomore? Sorry, I'm not following the US system) and I used stewart's book to learn single variable calculus, but I didn't do the exercises from the book, and I did the exercises at the AP level. I took my AP Calculus BC today. Although I'm hoping for a 5, I think I have the concepts but it's not entirely concrete yet.

My question is: I want to move on and learn multivariable calculus starting the end of May, probably continuing Stewart's or using Marsden. Do you think it's ok for me to do this without having a very rigorous base in single variable calculus?

And also, I know there have been many threads on this, but still, Marsden or Stewart? They both look very similar to me.

Thanks.

Edit: Oh, and to add. I am not doing all this preparation for pure math (Plan to do EE&CS). I am doing this for physics, because I enjoy physics.
 
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If you're not completely comfortable with single variable calculus, it would be better to study that more thoroughly before you start multivariable calculus. It's better to have a solid foundation rather than patchy knowledge of many things.
 
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Any way to do that quick? Because each chapter in stewart has a hundred exercises. And i don't want to go through all of that for like 11 chapters. :

Is there anything that will help me get around this?

Thanks
 
physicsnoob93 said:
Any way to do that quick? Because each chapter in stewart has a hundred exercises. And i don't want to go through all of that for like 11 chapters. :

There's no "quick" way of learning mathematics. The only way to learn, is to do.
 
Also, there's no need to do every single exercise that is given in your book. Do as many as you need to to learn the material and feel comfortable.
 
physicsnoob93 said:
Any way to do that quick? Because each chapter in stewart has a hundred exercises. And i don't want to go through all of that for like 11 chapters. :

Is there anything that will help me get around this?

Thanks
You don't need to do all 100 for every chapter, though - a typical college math course might assign 5-10 every week (well, it depends on what kind of problems they are).
 
You should also solve some problems in the the "problems plus" sections which have more challenging problems.
 
Will it be effective to skip the "Section" problems and jump right into the problems at the end of the chapter summary + problems plus? That would save loads of time.

Appreciate the input.
 
Just want you to remind you that you essentially need to pass the AP Calc exam (get about 60% of the test right) to get a 5. Hence, you should judge your own level of comfort with the concepts partly based on the exam. If you think you could have done or did complete most of the problems on the exam, you should be in good shape to tackle a book such as stewart's MV calc. But if there were many concepts that you skimped over, then go through stewart's single var text again. Judge for yourself where your weaknesses are and remedy them if necessary.

But if you already know you need to work through Stewart single var, you should still judge for yourself which exercises are necessary. Most of the exercises are a lot like the examples in the chapter, so don't do the ones where it is immediately clear how to proceed with a solution. Don't solely focus on the problems plus section, because there are genuinely difficult problems there, not all of which will be particularly relevant for your purposes. Most importantly, don't rush ahead. Why so hurried?
 
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To snipez, yeah I know the Calculus BC material throughout and I expect a 5. It's just that I don't think calculus BC is enough to continue to multivariate calculus. I think something deeper is required to understand it better. Obviously, the things covered in stewarts book are probably a level higher than the BC material. And yeah I'm doing this not because I want to hurry. It's just that school isn't very challenging. We're still doing sequences and binomial theorem fgs. Also, I want to learn E and M to a higher level with vector analysis.
 

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