MS vs MA Physics: Boston Univ Grad School

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The discussion revolves around the differences between a Master of Science (MS) and a Master of Arts (MA) in Physics, particularly in the context of applying to Boston University for graduate studies. Participants explore implications for pursuing a PhD after obtaining a master's degree, the role of a thesis, and the practices in different educational systems.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether there is a significant difference between an MS and an MA in Physics, especially when the ultimate goal is to earn a PhD.
  • One participant suggests that having a master's thesis may enhance the chances of producing publishable work, although they express uncertainty about the MA's role in this context.
  • Another participant clarifies that Boston University does not have a traditional master's program and that students can only obtain a master's degree while progressing through the PhD program.
  • It is noted that many MA programs do not require a thesis, which could limit opportunities for publication.
  • Participants discuss the differences in graduate education practices between the US and other countries, particularly regarding the direct transition from undergraduate to PhD programs and the nature of terminal master's programs.
  • One participant shares their experience that obtaining degrees from different institutions may be viewed favorably, although they question how representative this view is across universities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of obtaining an MA versus an MS, particularly regarding thesis requirements and publication potential. There is no consensus on the significance of these differences or their impact on future academic opportunities.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include varying definitions of master's programs across institutions, the absence of a master's thesis at Boston University, and the potential influence of educational practices in different countries on perceptions of degree value.

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Is there any difference between an MS and MA in Physics? I want to apply to Boston University for graduate school, but they only offer an MA in physics. Also note that in either case I am going on to earn my PhD, if that's relevant.
 
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If you get a PhD, nobody cares if you even have a masters.
 
The thing I might be worried about is that there's less chance of turning a master's thesis into a publishable paper if it's an MA. If you're eventually getting a PhD, it doesn't hurt to come out of it with a couple publications.

I have no experience with MA's though, so I could be wrong.
 
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I have no experience with MA's though, so I could be wrong.

Then why did you feel compelled to reply? Seriously - I don't know what it is about this section that makes people give uninformed advice. We have even had high school students try to give PhD students advice.

Boston University does not have a masters thesis. They don't even have a masters program. They permit someone partway through the PhD program to pick up a masters. So what you wrote doesn't really apply.
 
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Because many MA's don't require a thesis so there would be nothing to publish. I wasn't givng advice. I was raising a point for discussion. I explicitly declared my lack of credibility.

More importantly, the point can be discussed without getting meta about it...
 
We may be stumbling yet again on the difference in common practice in the US versus common practice in many (most?) other countries.

In the US, a student who intends to pursue a PhD in physics normally enters a PhD program directly after finishing an undergraduate degree. Along the way, he can usually "pick up" a master's degree after completing a certain number of hours of coursework. In my case (at Michigan) this was an MS. At Boston it's apparently an MA. A master's thesis is not (normally) part of this process.

As V50 noted, if you finish the PhD, it doesn't matter whether you picked up the master's or not.

Also, one normally does not transfer from one school to another at this stage.

Many universities also have a "terminal master's" program which is separate from the PhD track. These programs do include a master's thesis, but they are not intended to lead into a PhD program. My impression is that these programs are mainly for "applied physics" areas (i.e. lead into industrial jobs), or for high school teachers who are upgrading their credentials.
 
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I was advised during my undergrad that getting all three degrees at different institutions was viewed favorably (diversity of pedagogy). Is there any truth to that?

My M.S. (in the states) led to publishable work that (I presume) got me into the international PhD program I wanted to get into (whereas some of my peers were switching to M.A.'s so so they could just get out of academics with a project). But I don't know how representative this is of universities nationwide.
 

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