MSc in Theoretical (Mathematical) Physics,KCL vs Edinburgh

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the choice between pursuing an MSc in Theoretical Physics at King's College London (KCL) and an MSc in Mathematical Physics at Edinburgh, with some participants also considering an MSc in QFFF at Imperial College London. The conversation touches on aspects such as course reputation, teaching quality, student satisfaction, and personal preferences regarding location and course structure.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about the quality of teaching in the QFFF course at Imperial, despite its reputation.
  • Another participant suggests that KCL might be the best option due to its admission standards and perceived quality.
  • A participant mentions that KCL has a longer-established program with a focus on supersymmetry and strings, which may be beneficial for those interested in these areas.
  • Some participants note that Edinburgh has stronger REF results but question its student satisfaction ratings.
  • Concerns are raised about the small size of the KCL course, with one participant preferring a larger cohort for idea exchange.
  • Living conditions in London versus Edinburgh are discussed, with some expressing a preference for Edinburgh's environment.
  • Participants inquire about the experiences of current students at Imperial to gauge the quality of instruction.
  • Funding for the courses is also mentioned as a concern among participants.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on which program is superior, as multiple competing views remain regarding the quality and suitability of the different courses. There is also uncertainty about the implications of course size and location preferences.

Contextual Notes

Participants express various assumptions about the quality of education and personal preferences, which may influence their decisions. Specific details about student satisfaction and course content are not fully resolved, leaving room for differing interpretations.

Who May Find This Useful

Prospective students considering MSc programs in Theoretical or Mathematical Physics, particularly those weighing options between KCL, Edinburgh, and Imperial College London.

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Hi all,

I have an offer to do an MSc in QFFF at Imperial or an MSc in Mathematical Physics at Edinburgh, or (with luck) an MSc in Theoretical Physics at Kings College London (KCL).

Technically, QFFF is the best (i.e most reputable) course - but I have heard very bad things about how it's been taught recently, and really don't think it's a good idea.

So between Edinburgh and Kings College London, what's my best bet? (as someone who will have a BSc in Physics with Theoretical Physics, should be on a decent 1st, and is aiming to do a PhD). Edinburgh has stronger REF results, but it's student satisfaction (overall, I don't know for this course) is much poorer...

Basically, does anyone have any experience of these courses and could let me know what they're like? / If you had a PhD application from someone on one of these, which would you pick, all things being equal.

Thanks :)
 
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If you thing you're not going to like it, for sure you won't. Kings College London is probably the best, and it's harder to get admitted there. Maybe the level is higher, but learning requires just that.
 
I received an offer for the MSc Theoretical Physics at KCL and have applied to Imperial (QFFF), Edinburgh (MSc Theoretical Physics), Durham (MSc Particles, Strings and Cosmology) and LMU (MSc Theoretical and Mathematical Physics).

I always thought that the QFFF course is the best, because Imperial wants a First, while KCL accepts 2:1. Also Imperial is ranked the highest, being in the top 20 worldwide, while KCL is just in the top 100 when it comes to physics or maths.

Considering I want to do a PhD with a focus on string theory, possibly in the US, which course would be my best choice, considering the reputation and the research quality of the different departments?
 
Have you made a decision?
I am in the same position and wondering what may have influenced you.

(and perhaps I will study with you this year!)
 
kika_ said:
Have you made a decision?
I am in the same position and wondering what may have influenced you.

(and perhaps I will study with you this year!)
Hey - haha well... as a physicist, it's my duty to warn you that's a bad basis on which to make a decision :)
Otherwise, I'm going to be heading up north to Edinburgh!
 
Haha of course not! I am just wondering if you have any insight that helped you choose Edinburgh over KCL?

Thank you, and congrats on your choice :)
 
Sure - well, if anything I think King's might have a shade on Edinburgh course wise as 'Wastrophysicist' points out - it's been going for longer, and they (guess it's obvious since they have John Ellis) have more stuff on supersymmetry and strings. But then supposedly Imperial is better than all three, and I'd completely disagree with that. Flat out no.

However, it's (I'm told) a small course - only six people or so - and I decided that was just too small for me. (Personally, I like having different people to bounce ideas off). Other than that, I felt after three years of London that I could do with a change (London is awesome - and I will miss it - but you need a change every now and then, I reckon).

If you've got any specific questions though, feel free to ask!
 
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bananabandana said:
Sure - well, if anything I think King's might have a shade on Edinburgh course wise as 'Wastrophysicist' points out - it's been going for longer, and they (guess it's obvious since they have John Ellis) have more stuff on supersymmetry and strings. But then supposedly Imperial is better than all three, and I'd completely disagree with that. Flat out no.

However, it's (I'm told) a small course - only six people or so - and I decided that was just too small for me. (Personally, I like having different people to bounce ideas off). Other than that, I felt after three years of London that I could do with a change (London is awesome - and I will miss it - but you need a change every now and then, I reckon).

If you've got any specific questions though, feel free to ask!

Six people?! Hard to believe it is so small - that's not enough! I somehow have a similar opinion about the Imperial program but not sure how I formed it.. ha. Do you know what subfield you want to study? The course selection in Edinburgh seems to be more varied in a way that suits me - but I have contacted faculty at KCL I would prefer to study with. So am a little stuck.

May I ask about living in London? I am a little deterred from living there as opposed to Edinburgh. (Coming from Canada.. am used to space and outdoors :p). Did you live close to your University? Are there nice parks, and/or is it easy to get out of town?

Many thanks!
 
Unsure if either of you is still considering ICL. A friend is currently studying physics there, so I can ask him about his experience of the quality of instruction if it would help your decision.
 
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PetSounds said:
Unsure if either of you is still considering ICL. A friend is currently studying physics there, so I can ask him about his experience of the quality of instruction if it would help your decision.

Yes, if you wouldn't mind! I would love to know the students impressions of courses and faculty.

I appreciate your help :) !
 
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kika_ said:
Yes, if you wouldn't mind! I would love to know the students impressions of courses and faculty.

I appreciate your help :) !

For reference, I'm at ICL :P
 
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To people in ICL, how are you guys funding the course?
 

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