Multiplication and addition principle for count possibilities?/

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The discussion revolves around counting the number of possible sequences of coin tosses, specifically focusing on sequences that start or end with heads. The original poster attempts to apply the multiplication and addition principles of counting to solve the problem involving five coin tosses.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the use of the addition theorem to partition the problem into cases based on the outcomes of the first and last coin tosses. There is also discussion on how to apply the multiplication theorem to count the total number of sequences.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide insights into the reasoning behind the constraints of the coin tosses and suggest ways to connect the multiplication theorem to the problem. The original poster expresses gratitude for the guidance received, indicating progress in understanding the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of constraints on the outcomes of the coin tosses, specifically focusing on the first and last tosses, which influences the counting approach. The original poster is navigating the application of counting principles in the context of a homework assignment.

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multiplication and addition principle for count possibilities??/

we toss a fair coin 5 times and recored the sequence of head and tails obtained.how may sequences are possible that start with head OR end with head.?

so what i did was using addition theorem i divided this complex process into 3 simple partitions like below

X1=start with head AND end with head
X2=start with head AND end with tail
X3=start with tail AND end with head

so my answer should be X1+X2+X3...

but I am supposed to find X1,X2,and X3 by using the multiplication theorem but I am little bit confused about how to use it

can anyone help me out.thanks!~!
 
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In each case, you have constrained exactly two of the five coin flips.

If you had constrained all five, then of course there would be only one sequence matching the constraints.

If you had constrained four out of five, then you have one degree of freedom (one specific coin toss would be allowed to be a head or a tail), so there would be two sequences satisfying the constraints.

Can you use a similar line of reasoning for the case where exactly two of the coin flips (the first and the last) are constrained?
 


yr thanks it helps me a lot i can get the answe using that ,,,,,,,,,,

but can u help me about multiplication thorem it says if a process separated to several stages where there are M1 choices in stage 1 ,M2 choices in stage 2...Mr choces in stage r then i can get the total number of number of ways by

M1*M2*...Mr

do u know about it and how to connect that with above problem .....
 


rclakmal said:
yr thanks it helps me a lot i can get the answe using that ,,,,,,,,,,

but can u help me about multiplication thorem it says if a process separated to several stages where there are M1 choices in stage 1 ,M2 choices in stage 2...Mr choces in stage r then i can get the total number of number of ways by

M1*M2*...Mr

do u know about it and how to connect that with above problem .....

Yes. First, let's consider tossing N coins in a row. How many possible distinct outcomes are there? You have N stages, and each stage has 2 possible outcomes, so the total number of possible sequences is just [tex]2^N[/tex].

Now, if you are asked to count the number of sequences where the first and the last coin toss are constrained, then if you think about that a bit, that's actually equivalent to simply tossing (N-2) normal coins, plus 2 coins that only have heads (or only have tails). So then M=2 for (N-2) of the coins, and M=1 for the other 2 coins. Then you have

[tex]2^{N-2} \cdot 1^2 = 2^{N-2}[/tex]

possible outcomes.

Another way to think about it is that it's equivalent to tossing a sequence of (N-2) coins, whereas the remaining two coins were already tossed by someone else prior to the experiment.
 


thanks a lot u saved my life ...:)...by using that i got the answer as 24...

X1=8,X2=8,X3=8;;;;;;;;;;;;so
X=X1+X2+X3
X=24

thanks again ...!
 

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