Multiplication Rule in Probability

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The forum discussion centers on the application of the Multiplication Rule in Probability, specifically addressing discrepancies in answers to two probability questions. The first question involves calculating the probability that only one of three randomly selected individuals has a birthday on a Sunday, while the second question pertains to the probability of rolling exactly one six with a fair die thrown three times. The user’s calculations for the first question yielded a probability of 108/343, contrasting with the textbook's answer of 36/343. The user correctly identifies that the textbook's approach to the first question is flawed, as it fails to account for the arrangement of outcomes.

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Homework Statement



In order to highlight the problem I'm having here I have posted two questions, the answer for the second matches the textbook answer, the first does not. The wording of both questions appears to be the same. Have I gone wrong in the 1st question, or is the book incorrect?

Many thanks.

Q. 1. Three people were selected at random and asked on which day of the week their next birthday was falling. What is the probability that only one of the birthdays falls on a Sunday.

Q. 2. A fair die is thrown 3 times. Find the probability that there will be exactly one 6.

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The Attempt at a Solution



Attempt 1: P(X)=\binom{3}{1}\binom{1}{7}^1\binom{6}{7}^2= \frac{108}{343}

Ans. 1.: (From textbook): \frac{36}{343}

Attempt 2: P(X)=\binom{3}{1}\binom{1}{6}^1\binom{5}{6}^2= \frac{25}{72}
 
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odolwa99 said:

Homework Statement



In order to highlight the problem I'm having here I have posted two questions, the answer for the second matches the textbook answer, the first does not. The wording of both questions appears to be the same. Have I gone wrong in the 1st question, or is the book incorrect?

Many thanks.

Q. 1. Three people were selected at random and asked on which day of the week their next birthday was falling. What is the probability that only one of the birthdays falls on a Sunday.

Q. 2. A fair die is thrown 3 times. Find the probability that there will be exactly one 6.

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



Attempt 1: P(X)=\binom{3}{1}\binom{1}{7}^1\binom{6}{7}^2= \frac{108}{343}

Ans. 1.: (From textbook): \frac{36}{343}

Attempt 2: P(X)=\binom{3}{1}\binom{1}{6}^1\binom{5}{6}^2= \frac{25}{72}

What is the *logic* you used in getting your answer? In other words, why do you write what you did write? (BTW: I get your answer.)
 
In Q.1 The arrangement is P(S, F, F) + P(F, S, F) + P(F, F, S). Where F is fail, i.e. not the selected day, so 6/7. And S is success, i.e. the selected day, so 1/7. Then multiply the success as shown in the 1st sentence and add the 3 totals for the answer.

The same logic applies with question 2, except now the odds are that F = 5/6 & S = 1/6.

For the books answer to be correct, factor only a successful day for one outcome, and ignore the remaining 2. I'm assuming that this is what the question is aiming for?

In the second question, 3 separate die rolls means that 3 separate probabilities will be accounted for, not just the 1st.
 
You answers are correct. (Btw, it would be better not to use the same notation for both combinatorials and fractions. For the fractions use \frac{}{}.)
 
Ok, so the book is definitely wrong? Thanks.
 

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