Multivalued limit of (i + i/n)^n

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The discussion revolves around the multivalued limit of the expression (i + i/n)^n as n approaches infinity, particularly focusing on the discrete values it approaches and the implications of these values in the context of complex analysis. Participants explore the definitions and interpretations of limits in the complex plane.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant claims that (i + i/n)^n approaches four discrete values (e, ei, -e, and -ei) as n approaches infinity, depending on whether n is an integer.
  • Another participant suggests that the concept of a "limit cycle" might be more appropriate and proposes replacing n with a real number x to describe the behavior in the complex plane.
  • A question is raised regarding why ei is not considered equal to the limit, with a reference to the established limit of (1 + 1/n)^n as n approaches infinity equating to e.
  • Clarification is provided that e^i is indeed the limit of (1 + i/n)^n as n approaches infinity, indicating a distinction in the behavior of the two expressions.
  • There is a correction regarding the radius of the limit cycle, with a participant acknowledging a mistake in their earlier statement about the value of |z|.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the limit and whether it should be described as approaching discrete values or as part of a limit cycle. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the definitions and implications of these interpretations.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential ambiguities in the definitions used, particularly concerning the nature of limits in the complex plane and the assumptions underlying the expressions being analyzed.

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I realized that (i + i/n)n approaches 4 discrete values (e, ei, -e and -ei) as n approaches infinity (if n is integer). (If I take that i2 = 1, then it approaches two discrete values (e and ei)). Does this kind of "multivalued limit" have some other name so I can learn more about it or where it has been applied ?

Why is ei not equal to this limit (since e1 is equal to the limit (1 + 1/n)n as n approaches inifinity) ? I know it's a matter of definitions but why isn't it defined this way ?

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Hi ff,

"approaches 4 discrete values" is a little bit self-contradictory. Perhaps it's more sensible in this case to replace n by x (x a real number) and speak of a limit cycle (the circle ##|{\bf z}| = 1##) in the complex plane

"Why is ei not equal to this limit (since e1 is equal to the limit (1 + 1/n)n as n approaches inifinity) ?"

That is because ##e^i = \lim \,({\bf 1}+i/n)^n\ \ \ ## :smile:

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Hi BU,
BvU said:
Perhaps it's more sensible in this case to replace n by x (x a real number) and speak of a limit cycle (the circle ##|{\bf z}| = 1##) in the complex plane

Thanks for the "cycle". I think you meant ##|{\bf z}| = e## in this case though.
 
I certainly do :smile: ! Sorry for the mistake.
 
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