Multiverse with and without me

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of the multiverse, particularly in relation to individual existence and the implications for future generations. Participants explore how the existence of multiple outcomes for a person's life interacts with the existence of their descendants, considering both personal and ancestral decisions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how the multiverse can accommodate all possible outcomes for their children's lives if there are universes where they do not exist, suggesting that this challenges the viability of the multiverse concept.
  • Another participant introduces the idea of universes where individuals may or may not be born, indicating that these universes can then diverge based on subsequent life choices, such as having children.
  • A participant notes the distinction between the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics and the broader notion of a multiverse, suggesting that the discussion is specifically about many-worlds.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of the multiverse for individual existence and generational outcomes. There is no consensus on the validity of the multiverse concept as it relates to personal existence and lineage.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of existence in different universes and the implications of quantum mechanics, which remain unresolved and are subject to interpretation.

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Hi All
I'm a new comer to this forum, excuse my posting a question in a reply section but I can't find where to post a question.

I just want to put forward a thought I had in relation to the existence of the multiverse idea, here in lies my query: if all my possible outcomes in my life are played out in the multiverse, then how can all possible outcomes for my children's lifes be played out in the multiverse if in one or more of thoes universes I have no children, taking that thought and idea back one generation to my parents and their decisions to have children and the chances that they have any in the first place makes the possibility of existence seem very small and also for all the decisions we make throughout our lives. To me it seems that the idea of a multiverse cannot truly exist if all past, present and future beings that occupy anyone of them do not exist in the first place??

P.S. (if I die young say at 5 years old in one and live to be an old man with children in another how does the multiverse playout the outcomes for my future generations or is this the only universe)
 
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Tony Dempsey said:
Hi All
I'm a new comer to this forum, excuse my posting a question in a reply section but I can't find where to post a question.

I just want to put forward a thought I had in relation to the existence of the multiverse idea, here in lies my query: if all my possible outcomes in my life are played out in the multiverse, then how can all possible outcomes for my children's lifes be played out in the multiverse if in one or more of thoes universes I have no children, taking that thought and idea back one generation to my parents and their decisions to have children and the chances that they have any in the first place makes the possibility of existence seem very small and also for all the decisions we make throughout our lives. To me it seems that the idea of a multiverse cannot truly exist if all past, present and future beings that occupy anyone of them do not exist in the first place??

P.S. (if I die young say at 5 years old in one and live to be an old man with children in another how does the multiverse playout the outcomes for my future generations or is this the only universe)

The concept you are missing, perhaps understandably, is that of a world without you in it.
 
I've asked to have this split off into its own thread.

Tony - if you have New Post permissions, there should be a big blue "Post New Thread" button near the upper right of the home page of the particular forum you're in.
 
Tony Dempsey said:
Hi All
if in one or more of thoes universes I have no children, taking that thought and idea back one generation to my parents and their decisions to have children and the chances that they have any in the first place makes the possibility of existence seem very small and also for all the decisions we make throughout our lives.
There would be universes where you were born vs not born. And those universes then proceed and split, e.g. with/without children as appropriate.

What is your level of understanding on QM, in particular maths?

EDIT: re-worded first sentence.
 
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Just for future reference, note that the many-worlds interpretation of QM is not the same thing as the notion of a multiverse. Fortunately, in this thread, it's clear enough that you're talking about many-worlds.
 

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